Why do unbelievers claim that Christianity is a bloody and violent religion?

Question

Can anyone please show me the verses where Jesus spoke about killing someone in the name of God or molesting small children in the Church of God will be acceptable? How about showing me one single verse where Jesus waged a bloody and violent war.

An unbeliever showed me in Luke 19:27 where Jesus said "Bring the enemies to me and kill them" ----

If you start reading from Luke 19:1, you will see Jesus was telling a story about a nobleman.

This is why unbelievers do not understand the bible, but they would tell me over and over that Jesus was talking about killing people if they didn't believe in him. That is so untrue!

Unbelievers have read the bible, I give them that much, but they do not understand what they are reading.

Peace and God Bless!
Devoted to Christ has refuted atheism.
"In order for atheism to be true, we would have to be omniscient."

I SAID SHOW ME THE VERSES WHERE THE INVENTOR OF CHRISTIANITY WAS A BLOODY AND VIOLENT DICTATOR!!?!?!?!?!?

Answer 1

Naw, the lever of eternal damnation is much better to develop a following than the simple threat of death.

Duh!

ADDENDUM

"I SAID SHOW ME THE VERSES WHERE THE INVENTOR OF CHRISTIANITY WAS A BLOODY AND VIOLENT DICTATOR!!?!?!?!?!?"

Stop shouting.

Read any one of scores (hundreds?) of verses in the OT where god orders the destruction of entires cities and nations. It is your (Xian) claim that Jesus=God (i.e. "trinity"). Are you denying that fantasy or, as usual, cherry picking the parts of "god's word" you choose to believe?

A few choice passages:

1Sa 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ***.

Eze 9:4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

Eze 9:5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

Eze 9:6 Slay utterly old [and] young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom [is] the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which [were] before the house.

Eze 9:7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.


Nonviolence in action? I think not.

Answer 2

Jesus had the right message, how ever, the problem is when people often don't listen to just Jesus, and take the whole thing in mind, Old, and New testament. The Old is full of alot of violence.

Too many people do not follow his word, and do many things he said not to do. They judge, they kill in his name. While Jesus was not a violent man, the book as a general whole tends to be that way. A quote that has been thrown at me, countless times by people saying they were christian, is "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live". Clearly that goes against his teachings, being that he didn't want people to Judge each other. Judging is to be left up to God, and is not meant for man.

I very much understand what I have read, I was Catholic for the first 12 years of my life. I know, and understand what it says. But *many* people don't take his word seriously and pay more attention to the rest of the book.

Answer 3

lol Are you visually challenged or just can't read. It's all through the bible. Jesus was a dissident and a rebel. They carried knives. The blood, the body. Anything to do with the war god of the O.T. is violent. Get a grip on your anger. It will be your undoing.
I was a christian. There (haha) is nothing you can do to try to tell me what the bible says. It has all ready been twisted a million different ways. You sure didn't come up with anything new.
Your reasoning on people being omniscient is seriously lacking in study. I know for a fact when we are out of body we are everywhere at once. Faster than the blink of an eye you are transported to where you want to be. Got anything else?

Answer 4

The part that makes no sense to you is that the buck always stops at the top. There are no bad soldiers, only bad generals. If you put a supernatural overseer at the top and grant him supernatural powers of omniscience and omnipotence, then if he is benevolent, there is no reason for him to stand back and watch the chaos. A Nuclear Power Plant Manager who stood by and watched a melt-down without any action to prevent it would be prosecuted. They would not accept "I told them what they had to do to prevent the melt-down and sat down with a cup of tea and watched" as a defence in a court of law, especially if he had set the melt-down in action to test his employees. Yes, there were violent Atheistic regimes but they were violent for other reasons such as keeping political control, not because of a lack of belief in a God. Theistic regimes have been violent because of their beliefs in their supernatural overseer and like Nazi Germany, probably would not have committed the atrocities if they were not driven by that supernatural belief. The argument of whether Hitler was Christian or just manipulative is neither here nor there, the German people would not have done the things they did had they not thought that it was their God's wishes.

Answer 5

Until the very end of time, people will take
the Word out of context and attempt to throw it in your face; the question is, are you "had" that easily, or are you a soldier
of Christ?
All the major religions have bloody pasts, and we all know it; my question would be:
"what religious sects TODAY are responsible for bloodying the streets?"
I don't think anyone needs three guesses
on that one.
As far as unbelievers reading the Bible but not understanding it: I have to tell you this:
I am a teacher of the manuscripts and for the past 35+ years I have noticed that in many cases an athiest will be more knowledgeable of whats written than many
of faith; however, that said, they do not understand what they are reading: they come to a part where it APPEARS as if they have a controversy or where it APPEARS as if God is being unfair, etc,
and they make note of it, ponder it, relish in it. They have no knowledge of the laws and
social order of the time, no knowledge of idioms or figures of speech, no knowledge of what is and is not translated properly from the original Writings; no knowledge of the fact that much of it is transliterated rather than translated.
Unfortunately, there is one other thing that is obvious to me: many of the Christians
who take up space in a pew every week
for twenty, thirty, even forty years, are so
Biblically illiterate that its pathetic. Is it their fault? Well, Christ states he will visit those pulpits FIRST when he returns and he plans to pull out the center support beam of the building and let it drop down onto their heads. He blames those who are supposed to be teaching His Word but instead just throw in a verse or two, one hour a week and thats about all ya get. But he also
states that its the fault of the people as well, for not caring enough to take the time to read and listen to His Words INSTEAD of
some Pastor, Priest, or Pope's "word".

I hear over and over again where someone will state "I thought your God was love but look where he led people into wars" - they
don't even seem to know God at all - God is not some fuzzy bunny of cuddly love;
He loves when it is appropriate to love;
He also hates when it is appropriate to hate.
People want to make him look like a God who is some kind of wimp, and His children
as people who are here to be used as a doormat to just walk all over.
Soon, they are gonna find out what Gods TRUE Church is made of, and we are certainly not wimps or doormats. We take ground, not give it. We are the true Church of the Living God, and so if they are looking for some wimp religion, they are not gonna find it in the true Christian body.
What would you do if you found out that someone was hurting your child over and over again? I bet it would take you about one half second to start making way towards that person to even things up, right?
Well, our Father feels the same way. When He demonstrates and acts on His wrath, it IS out of love.
Keep in mind that the Father has said that he will get the attention of those unbelievers,
and intends to turn their heads around so that they see with their own eyes that there is a God; how will he turn their heads around? HE WILL USE FISHHOOKS.
That sounds like a God who is not playing games; it also does not fit the description we keep hearing of this fuzzy cuddly push-around God. Nobody is getting away with
anything.
Those who know Him, feel the arms of a loving Father about them; they feel His strength and His protection.
Those who don't, soon will - either by waking up, or by fishhooks. Thats each persons choice. Everyone gets to sail their own ship, and thats why I often write:
"Have a good trip. Bon Voyage, Captain".

Answer 6

Interesting you only use quotes from the NT instead of the OT. The old testament is filled with violence and as it is still a part of the bible it has just as much weight as the NT even if some christians would prefer to ignore that. However, given that, early history was a violent time in all cultures so all early religions have a certain amount of violence attached to them (and I exclude Buddhism in that because I look at that as more of a philosophy than a religion even though it has protection as a religion under US law).

Edit: My you seem to have a temper when you don't get what you want. You also ask more than one question. If you wanted people to answer that you should have made the main question as most people, like myself, answer the main question given. Don't blame the people that answer when they ~are~ answering a question you asked.

Answer 7

A lot of people don't read the Bible enough to know what true Christianity is (that it is following a loving God and Saviour) they look at the things done in Christ name (taking the Lord's name in vain) and some of those things were absolutely horrendous. That is why some say that.

Answer 8

I think people aren't so much talking about Jesus, as the fact that blood sacrifice was needed for the atonement of sin. That's pretty violent, and is a cornerstone (perhaps even THE cornerstone) of your faith.

You haven't refuted atheism. Do you believe in fairies? No?? Then you must, by your own argument, be omniscient. Care to try again?

Answer 9

Because they base their claims on the Old Testament mainly. Unbelievers just cannot grasp the concept of a God that cannot bear sin. This is why he redeemed mankind under the New Testament, and now everyone is capable to repent and be forgiven through Jesus.

Yes the God of the OT is the same God of the NT - the difference being is that in today's society we live in grace not under the strict law.

Because in the OT, Jesus had not come yet, sins had to be forgiven through blood sacrifices of animals. God was also less forgiving back then for the same reasons, he cannot stand the sight of sin, it disgusts him. However now God sees us through Jesus, who is sinless, so that God does not have to see our sin any longer if we are a Christian.

God had a plan FROM THE BEGINNING to redeem mankind, that is, right after man had sinned, he alludes to the future events.

Answer 10

It is a good point you make, it is not surprising to me that such confusion pervails. If this were not the state of things, then prophecy would be wrong. It makes me sad but it was seen as it would be and so it is. This confusion about God will lead to our persecution.

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