What is your opinion illegals are acting “Holier than thou” in flouting the law?

Question

“It’s like a form of terrorism, the fear we are facing. Families today sit around the table not knowing if tomorrow they will be separated or deported,” he said in a statement” :::::: Yeah, it is a tough life when you are a CRIMINAL, ain’t it? Sorry, but the people feeling the “terror” are the REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS who are the victims of the COST, TAXATION, CRIME, DRUGS, SLAVE-TRADE AND DISEASE, to say nothing of our government’s complicity in supporting these CRIMINALS. That is the real terror.
The REAL terrorism is hordes of illegal aliens and Aztlan activists marching and chanting "Viva LaRaza!" in the streets making threats and demands and carrying foreign flags ....When someone says that illegals are acting “Holier than thou” in flouting the law, now they’re actually DOING IT FROM THE PULPIT!
Many people in the Madison area may never get the chance to hear for themselves what the experience of today's immigrant workers is like, says Rabbi Laurie Zimmerman.

Some of them will get that chance this weekend.

"Immigrant Workers in the Pulpit" is bringing local workers to 15 area churches and synagogues to share at worship services their experiences as immigrants on the job.

In a variation on the Interfaith Coalition for Workers Justice of South Central Wisconsin's annual Labor in the Pulpits, the organization is focusing on immigrant workers to give them a voice in the midst of red-hot political controversy over the status of immigrants in the United States.

"This is important because of the tenor in American society," Zimmerman said. "There is such vicious discourse on the immigration issue. It is important for people of faith to hear people who are immigrants and really struggling in society."

One worker scheduled to speak, Mexican immigrant
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Answer 1

To be quite honest I have little sympathy for anyone who knowingly and willing immigrates to a country illegally, and then complains about their treatment -- you are breaking the law. Basically, what is boils down to is they want to cherrypick which laws they want to follow. They disregard and break the rules they don't like (i.e. immigrating legally), and want the beneficial rules to apply to them. Real life does not work that way ... you can't break the rules and then expect the same treatment/benefits as those who are following the rules. These people knew when they decided to cross the border illegally there would be consequences for their actions ... they just don't want to accept them. To use a rather clicheed expression "they want to have their cake, and eat it too."

I have immigrated to several countries legally, and while it might be a time consuming and frustrating process in most cases it is the process you must go through nonetheless. I've immigrated to Brazil, France, Denmark, and Sweden. What do you think would happen if I showed up in one of those countries and they asked for my immigration paperwork and I responded, "Oh ... it was too complicated and expensive, but I want to be here so let me stay!" They'd kick my butt out of the country faster than you could say jumping jack flash. Moreover I would never have the gaul to expect the same social/legal benefits of a host country if I were there illegally ... that takes a hell of a lot of chutzpah. "Hi ... I'm here breaking the law, and I want free stuff, so gimme gimme gimme ..." "I know I immigrated here illegally, but I really want to be here so the rules shouldn't apply to me ..." etc, etc ...

If you think I'm harsh you should hear my friends whom have immigrated to the United States legally from foreign countries ... they just about foam at the mouth when the illegal immigration debate is discussed it infuriates them so much (and I think rightfully so). Most spend the better part of decade filling out applications, appealing decisions, paying fee after fee, and fulfilling all the bureaucratic necessities -- it is really a complicated and nerve racking process, but they are FOLLOWING THE LAW. Then some guy who breaks all the rules and comes into the country illegally enjoys many of the privileges they don't have. Tell me how is that fair?

A friend of mine (whom is Chilean) made the following analogy. Suppose you have a nice suburban house with a fence around the yard, etc ... you wake up one morning and there are five people camped out on your front lawn, and they say ... "you can't make us leave ... we've mowed the lawn and cleaned up ... done all the things you don't like to do!" That may very well be, but the fact of the matter is they were not invited, and despite all the "good/productive" things they've done they are still breaking the law (tresspassing/squating).

If you immigrate to this country illegally you are breaking the law ... there is no equivocation ... this is a fact, not a matter or opinion. While I have no problem with persons who want to come to this country and earn an honest living and provide for their families I think they should have to obey the law just like everyone else. As soon as people start deciding which laws they're going to obey and which ones they're going to ignore society will descend in chaos -- under those conditions you can do whatever you want.

Answer 2

What did you expect? Churches do not care about the economics of the issue or the strain on the U.S. taxpayers as a result of over 12 million illegal immigrants in this country. Churches are non-profits. They want to help the downtrodden. Are there more downtrodden in Africa? Sure, but illegal immigrants have trespassed into the churches' backyards where they are more easily noticed. The bottom line is Mexico doesn't want these people and will do whatever it takes to have less of them in their country. These methods include gaining the sympathy of the U.S. churches toward these trespassers. So the churches, especially the dioceses, are playing into the Mexican government's hands.

The irony is we already have a substantial downtrodden U.S. citizen underclass of our own that would do almost all the jobs the illegals now do. This underclass needs to be better networked to obtain these jobs. Why do the illegal immigrants know where these jobs are and our own underclass does not?

Answer 3

Most Americans are just as frustrated as you are. Businesses gain so much for employing illegals that they heavily lobby to prevent their deportation. Since the government have scaled back on raids, the illegals just flow back again. The country is one that does not support its own laws; how does that make Americans feel protected? I wish the government would issue a contemporary study on the effects, particularly financial, illegal immigration has had on the middle class in the past twenty years or so that amnesty was granted... ...while there still a middle class, that is. Thanks for not trashing liberals and Democrats, btw.

Answer 4

It's sad the illegals bring all this misery unto themselves an they whine on how mistreated they are,With the ID & SS# thieft an fraud when caught they cry don't deport them there just trying to feed there familys> With no regret on the victims they frauded an took jobs from>? There is no sympathy for the criminal illgals an what ever happens to them as it was there choice not ours>?

Answer 5

I do not doubt that they fear of being found out, and living your life in fear is not something I would like to experience, but if you are here illegally that's to be expected. Would someone please tell them that when you break the law working with false documents or driving without a license that's the price you pay. As for being separated from their families, I am sure that when they left their country, they left family behind, so why is it only a problem when they are here.

Answer 6

'rabbi' Zimmerman's bio from a critic but interesting read..

this is an attempt to change popular opinion but it will only be further fuel for the fires as it is the illegal themselves who have formed public opinion by their actions and deeds and the havoc they have placed on our entitlement system that is meant for legal citizens who need aide.

Answer 7

That's only part of the plan.
http://www.fightbacknews.org/2007/09/immanalysis.htmt's

Answer 8

Simple. They are trying to be "players". They are trying to manipulate public opinion. For a while that was working. Not any more.

Answer 9

These people are thieves. They are stealing opportunity. They need to go.

Answer 10

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