me n my friends are making a petition and...?

Question

...we plan to get 500 signitures. weve worked on it for a week. we only have like 25 signitures.


it is for..
in the student handbook for the okcps district it clearly states under dress code that we aren allowde to wear satanic, cult dress, witchcraft or related symbols. that is unconstitutional. tell me if u think this is wrong an if u have advice...

thanks

Answer 1

You need to spend more time learning how to spell before you go on any crusades.

Answer 2

YOu need to get your parents involved on this one, I'm afraid. The School district, by restricting ONE Religion's symbol while allowing OTHER Religious symbols is illegal. However, YOU, as minors have little recourse without the backing of a responsible adult. this is an issue that needs to be presented to the School Board and NOT to the principal of the School. His/her hands are tied by the actual School Policy handbook., which is approved and passed by the School board and NOT the administration.

MORE importantly, you have to ask yourself WHY it's of paramount importance to YOU. Do you wish to wear your pent as an outward sign of rebellion? Or do you want to do so to honor God(ess)? to be a Witch does NOT mean that you absolutely HAVE to display that fact for the whole world to see, simply for the sake of making the world see that you are a Witch. In other words, Wearing your Pent is NOT a part of being a Witch, it's merely an outward sign, a symbol and in and of itself the pent doesn't MAKE you a Witch. Wearing a pent is not an integral part of your worship of God(ess). A Pent doesn't HAVE "special" protective powers, nor does it have any direct relevance to Witchcraft, other than an outward sign to others that you ARE of the craft. In SOME circles, being public about your Religion can be seen as a distraction to your worship.

Also, how your parents feel about it all has a lot of importance as to whether or not you'll receive support from them as well as any other adults, when this goes before the School board. Always err on the side of caution. Think about it, do you realy want to endure the sort of repercussions that making an issue of this wil bring upon yourself from the community as a whole? the rest of the student Body as a whole? Your teachers and administrators? While, technically you ARE in the morally correct court on this, there are other considerations that need to be taken into account as well.

BB,
Raji the Green Witch

Answer 3

If your school district is banning the wearing of a pentacle, they are wrong. They would have to ban the wearing of all religious symbols to be correct. Also, court cases have already been fought and won over the unconstitutionality of this practice by school boards. Do some research and add the outcomes of these rulings to your petition, then try circulating it to a larger area in your community. Personally, I think you have the grounds for a lawsuit here! I live in Oklahoma and would be more than happy to help anyway I can. After all, my grandchildren may attend this school someday! ....good luck and Blessings!

Answer 4

I'm assuming this is a public school district? If it is then yes you do have a case and I suggest you write letters to your congressperson or even go to the ACLU if you have to. Not allowing students to wear "witchcraft" related items while still allowing them to wear crosses or other religious paraphenilia is a violation of separation of church and state and is close to government endorsement of religion or condemnation of a religion. It is unconstitutional.

Now if it's private on the other hand I'm afraid there isn't much you can do. But public...yeah, go for it. Get some more support. Write your congressperson and the schoolboard. You have the right idea with the petitions.

Answer 5

LOL....I appreciate this kind of stuff, just because it is totally symbolic and pointless - I mean, I doubt you and your friends are doing this because of your aching desire to wear satanic cult gear to school every day. But why shouldn't you be able to, right? Go ahead and see how many signatures you can get, but don't be surprised if you can't push this one through. I kind of hope you don't, because if you can wear satanic cult gear (which could potentially be interesting but is almost always lame), they'll probably have to let the Christian kids wear those annoying "Jesus" peanut butter cup t-shirts.

Answer 6

Are other religious groups prohibited from displays of their beliefs as well?
Because if Christians can were crucifixes, Muslims can wear hijab and Jews get their cute hats, then it is totally wrong for the school to single this group out.
However, if the school has a policy against all religious/spiritual dress, then you probably won't get anywhere with your petition.

Answer 7

wear your Pentagram under your shirt.

most Pagans do this anyway. it is a protection. not a fashion statement. as for Cult Dress i do not know a respectable Pagan that wears their ritual robes to school or in public places.

if you are not Pagan and it is a fashion statement. then your school is right. they can regulate the type, color, and brand names that people can wear. they can even institute a school uniform policy and force you all to wear the same thing every day...yeah they can do that.

my school banned Tommy Hillfiger cloths because of racist statements that he made.

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look in the dictionary and identify the word CULT. and then Witchcraft.

the dress code says nothing about the religions of Wicca or Paganism. it says no Gang, or cult related attire.

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cult /kʌlt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhlt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3. the object of such devotion.
4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5. Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
7. the members of such a religion or sect.
8. any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific.
–adjective 9. of or pertaining to a cult.
10. of, for, or attracting a small group of devotees: a cult movie.
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you see this included Christianity and every other religion.

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witch·craft /ˈwɪtʃˌkræft, -ˌkrɑft/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[wich-kraft, -krahft] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. the art or practices of a witch; sorcery; magic.
2. magical influence; witchery.


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says nothing about the religion of Wicca. etc.


you have to use the system to fight the system.

Answer 8

I think the rules are in place to protect everyone. It probably also prevents gang symbols and racist symbols which is a very good thing because it divides people and causes conflict. If one groups symbols were allowed then all would have to be tolerated and you don't really want that do you?

Answer 9

Weird. I'm looking at that student handbook and it prohibits you from wearing "clothing bearing the names or emblems of any professional or collegiate sports teams with the exception of Oklahoma colleges & universities. I find that pretty funny. I also don't see any rules against wearing christian or other religious clothing so that's one-sided and definitely unfair.

Answer 10

If the catholic cult can have there crosses you should be able to wear yours. Try contacting the aclu for help. Use the phone its better then email. Don't be afraid of calling multiple times. Try asking other to help you guys gather signatures. YOU can Do DONT GIVE UP!!!!

Answer 11

If they are doing it to limit religious expression, then yes, it's unconstitutional. However, I suspect there is behavioral aspect to this. You may want to investigate this further before you present your petition. If you can prove it's on religious grounds, then you have a good chance of getting the rule overturned.