Ancient prophecy on national (and eventually global ids) that might be fulfilled under Hillary Clinton ?

Question

When the national ID system is renacted inside the bodies of human beings on the hand or forehead, a leader of indescribable brutality will appear. His all-seeing, all-controlling quest will make the combined depravities of Hitler, Stalin and Genghis Khan - all of whom were types of the Antichrist - look like child's play.

According to many scholars, a prerequisite for his appearing is a national - and finally a global - ID system, beneath which national boundaries will dissolve and economies from around the world will operate.

Without this future ID, nobody will "buy or sell, save he that has the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name" according to Revelation 13:17.

"In the wake of the calamitous events of September 11, Rep. Nancy L. Johnson (R., Conn.) suggested a national ID using fingerprints or retinal scans. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.) reportedly support[ed] the idea. And in the hallowed halls of Harvard, self-described civil libertarian Alan Dershowitz proposed a "voluntary" card, with a chip that matches the holder's fingerprints

Sen. Hillary Clinton is getting early odds for America's next president, but she wasn't waiting until 2008 to seek the office according to best-selling author Carl Limbacher. In his book, "Hillary's Scheme" he asserts that Mrs. Clinton has been planning executive ascension since before her husband Bill was there. What's more, she's bringing a few surprises with her, as in a National ID.

Is this coming to fruition now when it failed under Ronald Reagan because he understood the implications ?

Nobody even hinted that Hillary was the anti-christ. But she has plans to put the national id or system in place that will "enable" the eventual antichrist. That system could end up on your forearm or near your pineal gland and can be used.

BTW George Orwells's 1984 isn't half as impressive as the Book of revelation which is two thousands years older.

Hoping for some more intellectual answers,

Foxtrot, it isn't that complicated. The so-called symbolic (only as you say)allusions by John are already available in Book of Genesis and the Book of Daniel. The lamb, the woman, and her seed; and opposed to them, the dragon, the beast from the sea, and the beast from the land. The main idea is taken from Genesis 3:15. "I will put enmities between thee (the serpent) and the woman, and thy seed and her seed". The woman is arrayed in heavenly splendour; a crown of twelve stars on her head and the sun and the moon under her feet (cf. Genesis 37:9-10). She is in travail.

Her first-born is destined to rule all the nation (Psalm 2:8, 9). She herself, and her other seed, are persecuted for three and a half years by the great dragon who tries to kill them. The great dragon is Satan (Genesis 3:1). He is cast out of heaven. With his tail he drags after him one-third of the stars. Taken from Daniel 8:10. The fallen stars are the fallen angels. The beast from the sea is in great part taken from Daniel's description of the four beasts. It arises from the sea (Daniel 7:3); has seven heads marked all over with blasphemies. It had also ten horns, like the fourth beast of Daniel (7:7); it resembled a leopard, the third beast of Daniel (7:6), it had feet like a bear, the second beast of Daniel (7:5); and teeth like a lion, the first beast of Daniel (7:4).

Both symbolic and physical.

In the 1980s I had a good laugh too about Ronald Reagan and the 666, or for that matter Henry Kissinger, the pope etc. However being far more mature now, I can see that it really does not require a lot of research. Its kinda obvious now, don't you think ?

Answer 1

There is a big problem with illegal immigrants and terrorism. So there is a possibility that the government will be implementing a National ID card. This is not a democrat or republican issue, this is a national security issue.
As for your interpretation of the prophecies, I'm sorry to tell you that you are mistaken.
All humanity is now involved in a great controversy between Christ and Satan, regarding the character of God, His Law and His sovereignty over the universe. Satan is God's adversary. Satan hates God. He also hates the church, which in the prophecy: Church represents a Woman God's Seal=His Law.-10 commandments in your mind and in your hand -Those who have the seal of God will be protected through the tribulations of the final events.
If you are interested in learning about final events and Bible prophecies:
Go to [www.finalevents.com] they have a DVD that explains the final events of Bible prophecy. You will understand the US' involvement in final events, and you will also see with clarity the biggest players in end time prophecy. Like who is the anti-Christ. What is the mark of the beast.
God Bless

Answer 2

another attempt to apply the physical to the symbolic.
The mark of the beast is already in place. To those who have discernment, we can see those who have received the mark.
Remember, Rev. 1:1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.

If you are going to apply literally to this prophecy, then you better start looking for the 'great dragon' that hurls a third of the 'stars' from the heavens.


I remember (it still makes me laugh) when my friends and I used to try and understand Revelation back in the 80's, when all the speculation was: "Ronald Reagan" is the beast.
(Ronald Wilson Reagan=6-6-6 get it?)
You can not understand scriptural prophecy by applying the physical/literal.
You need to understand, that illustrations are to be discerned by the spirit.

Answer 3

I hope not. Not only do I not want the Anti-Christ to be president, but I don't want to have to carry around some little card that I KNOW I will forget right when I go out to do something important, and I have a hunch that the retina scans will cause cancer (everything else does).

On a more serious note, I think there is a high likelihood it will be Hilary, just by looking at how many people think it's not her. The Anti-Christ is supposed to be a deceiver.

Answer 4

Sigh, you can spin the religious hogwash theories, but people have already been doing this for thousands of years.

Credit cards and social security numbers have already been recognizing people for years. But most people have read 1984 and nothing too scary has been a result.

Answer 5

They need to make it harder to get onto the internet.

Did you know that each time a telemarketer calls you, your information is added to Satan's database?

Answer 6

does the book come with a free tinfoil hat, or do you have to make your own?

Answer 7

Paranoid much?

Answer 8

hmmm that is quite interesting, but sorry i don't have an answer for you

Answer 9

What rubbish.