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after seeing krav maga on the human weapon, it actualy shows how innafective bjj is and maybe judo is on the self defence side
i did bjj and loved it but now i start to see that you dont realy want to go to the ground with your opponent if they have a knife
that mma fighter would have been killed

i like judo, i think its a good sport, if judo does strikes i think it would be a great martial art if it dosent already include strikes
whats your opinoin, so in fact karate and kung fu actualy do have a good grip on self defence apart from taekwondo which is utter bullshido

thanks

2007-09-02 08:19:17 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports Martial Arts

13 answers

You are probably the most uneducated and opinionated CHILD who comes into this section. You don't know what you want. If any martial art were "bullshido" or truly "ineffective" it probably would have been abandoned long ago. I think you need to pick something, stick with it, and use your INSTRUCTOR for serious advice. People here can help you to a point, but until you figure out what you really want from a martial art, you are basically screwed.

In my honest opinion you should probably take a break from MA until you know what you want to get out of it. Instead of looking for a perfect art to try, find one that works for you and stick to it. Maybe when you realize that all martial arts have their weaknesses you will be able to find one that works for you.

And on a side note, I have a few 14 year olds (I think that is your age) who practice TKD who are confident in their skills. And they have every right to be. They, unlike you apparently, practice at a decent school that shows them how to apply their skills in real life situations. Like my 10 year old daughter has on at least three occasions. Sorry you wasted your time and money at your McDojang.

2007-09-02 17:32:53 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Krav Maga is not, and never was designed to be a true martial art. It was developed by the Israeli Defense Force as a combat defensive art for its soldiers, and to the best of my knowledge largely remains that. It is effective in a limited capacity for those who are capable of using it and who are in a situation that would call for it.

My very good friend who is a 9th Dan in TaeKwon-Do and also Jewish spends a great deal of time with the IDF, and has taught TaeKwon-Do on many Israeli bases. He is not particulalry enamored with Krav Maga as a martial system for civilian self-defense. Much though, depends on who is teaching, what curriculum they develop around the core of the techniques, and how they present their materials.

As for the Human Weapon, it's an entertaining show and it highlights much interesting information about each diverse art. If you take anything away from the show, it should the that all arts share a significant amount in COMMON, and all are undoubtedly effective in their own way, and will have limitations in their own way also. The idea however, that you can watch a one hour show and determine the most effective martial art out there based on it is just ludicrous.

I'm also pretty sure that even the "stars" of the show would never even contemplate suggesting one of the arts as superior over any of the others.

As for the interesting misconception that abounds regarding TaeKwon-Do being only a sport discipline. It was developed and first taught within the Korean Army by General Choi Hong Hi as a combat defensive system - exactly as Krav Maga is now being taught to the IDF. It was then taken out and modified by many others into a full martial art system and ultimately named TaeKwon-Do.

Strange how the thing you exhault as the holy grail bears such an uncanny birth story similarity to the thing you revel in knocking as charlatan so much :)


Ken C
9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do
8th Dan TaeKwon-Do
7th Dan YongChul-Do

2007-09-05 13:18:48 · answer #2 · answered by Ken C 3 · 1 0

1st Krav Maga took what works from arts like Bjj Judo and yes even TKD. It always amuses me when people hate on other arts. Is a front kick from Karate any different from a push Kick in Muy Thai or a front kick from Kung Fu or a snap kick from TKD? So why is the same technique when it is called Muy Thai awesome and when it is called TKD bullshido? Ask any Korean War Vet who had to fight close quarters against the North Koreans if TKD is bullshido

I think the great part of Krav Maga (from what I saw on the aforementioned show) was not so much their techniques but rather their intense training methodes. Incorporate some of those drills (I paticularly like the starting on your back drill, the 360' drill, and that final test) into any art you are training in and you will improve the practical application of the techniques you already know. No matter what some keyboard Kancho says about your art :)

2007-09-02 13:18:17 · answer #3 · answered by samurai2717 3 · 1 0

My opinion is that while bjj is a good art...it really, despite what any of it's practicioners profess, isn't a good defense art because regardless of whether your opponent has a weapon or not...being on the ground is very bad news.

The show on Krav Maga was interesting to say the least. It did show that real combat is very fast and chaotic (which is true) but, just as the other answerer pointed out...it is a tv show and as such can't truly be held as an absolute truth.

Judo is good but technically has the strikes removed from what I understand. Instead, you'd want to study jiu jitsu (japanese...not brazilian).

I agree that tkd isn't a good combat style but it is a good sport; which is actually why it was created. Karate is derived from the chinese arts and has retained a lot of combat practicality and kung fu (depending on the type of wu shu that you are talking about) can certainly be combat effective.

There's my opinion because you asked for it. ;)

2007-09-02 08:59:36 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Understand that BJJ is an art which has become very sports oriented. As long as you understand where BJJ is to be used it will be fine. Just don't go fooling yourself into thinking that it will be effective against multiple opponents or weapons. Judo taught in a classical way has strikes and weapon defenses but you would be hard pressed to come by a school which teaches like that any more.

Also remember that Judo and BJJ are a lot more fun to watch than someone getting stabbed.

2007-09-02 13:00:54 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

No martial art is ineffective or "bullshido" (with the exclusion of GKR Karate). Each have different strengths and weaknesses.

It does not show how ineffective bjj is, it shows how ineffective the bjj fighter was.

You have to remember each martial art will win, if the fighter is able to stick souly to the way its meant to be used.

Karate, Kung Fu and Taekwondo are distance combat Martial Arts whilst Krav Magar and BJJ are close combat Martial Arts.

Keeping at Leg distance for a Karate, Kung Fu or Taekwondo Fighter would be superior to any close combat Fighter, but when in close the Krav Magar and BJJ fighter would be superior.

Judo does not have any strikes.

If you want a Martial Art that is effective in all aspects look for a place that teaches Distance Striking and Close Combat fighting, it doesnt matter what the foundation is be it Taekwondo, Judo, Hapkido, BJJ and or JKD find somehwere that teaches what you want.

2007-09-02 12:03:58 · answer #6 · answered by Darren A 1 · 1 1

As long as it is one on one I still would go to the ground with someone with a knife. Of course my main objective would be to disarm. The only bad thing I see with bjj is that it is not recomended against more than one person. that is why I, as well, train in Kali and Aikido. Each have weaknesses but by adding the benifits the the other I think that I have a really good and rounded range of defense from standing down to ground fighting. The biggest reason his bjj wasn't working against the knfie is he is only a sport fighter. All his skills are designed around a ring or cage, he even said that himself. Bjj can be effective against a knife weilding person, if you train it that way. Again, against more than one you may have issues.

2007-09-02 10:41:02 · answer #7 · answered by Zenshin Academy 3 · 0 0

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2016-03-17 22:24:37 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

i wouldnt really say bjj is uneffective self defense, because just in case things go to the ground you'll know how to defend yourself. but i see your point you dont want to be on the ground/in close range of a person who has a knife, truth is if you can run thats the best option for knives arent long range weapons.

krav maga is good for focusing on self defense aspect of fighting instead of sports. for instance muay thai is a great sport combative art in which you could defend yourself very well on the streets, however muay thai doesnt teach you, how to disarm a knife/gun. etc....

krav maga uses bits and pieces from different styles making it a more complete system it also uses unconvential means of surviving like eye gouges, using anything as a weapon, etc...

2007-09-02 10:16:32 · answer #9 · answered by Cnote 6 · 0 0

its funny there is video i once saw of a BJJ guys destroying a master os krav maga like anyhtign else dependson the person that TV show showd thory on what to do in judo and BJJ situations but they did not fight a master of either art and by the way I did some tae kwon do we had guy took on 3 would be armed robbers eith tae kwon do it can be useful if you learn whats to use and what is practicual

2007-09-03 16:50:33 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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