having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ during her acceptance speech. The school wants her to appoligize for speaking about Jesus in her speech and she can get her diploma back. Well needless to say the girl and her parents have a law suit against the school now and trust me, THE SCHOOL WILL LOOSE. Regardless of your view of Christianity is it right for the school to take away this girls diploma? What if a Muslim was validictorian and said "I thank Allah and praise Muhammed"? Personally it wouldn't bother me one bit. What are your thoughts?
2007-09-02 07:15:19 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Please post a link to a news article about this... I find it hard to believe...
Edit: Nine hours later and no link... are you making this up?
2007-09-02 07:24:43 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Well, I disagree with them taking her diploma just because she mentioned her religion in her acceptance speech. It wouldn't bother me if anyone of any religion mentioned their religion in an acceptance speech. What I disagree with is when some think that because they belong to a certain religion that everyone else must be as well... and those people using deceit, force, or manipulation to get others to follow. If she had told everyone there that they must praise Jesus for her doing so well in school, then I would have had a problem with it.
Ah... after some search, I found it. She was not discussing HER personal relationship with Jesus........ She was using her time to PREACH. That is totally different.
"When it was Corder's turn, she encouraged the audience to get to know Jesus Christ:
"We are all capable of standing firm and expressing our own beliefs, which is why I need to tell you about someone who loves you more than you could ever imagine. He died for you on a cross over 2,000 years ago, yet was resurrected and is living today in heaven. His name is Jesus Christ. If you don’t already know him personally I encourage you to find out more about the sacrifice he made for you so that you now have the opportunity to live in eternity with him."
Corder had not included those remarks during rehearsals."
A validictorian speech is Not the time for religious preaching. I seriously doubt the school will lose considering she did not include those remarks during any of her rehearsals. And the girl, Corder, did comply and received her diploma - which is stated further down in the article.
Saying "I praise Jesus for......." Is one thing... using School time as a means to try to convert others is another.
As I said, it depends on WHAT is said in the speech. And obviously it wasn't just a simple "Thank you Jesus"
2007-09-02 07:49:37 · answer #2 · answered by River 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
free speech means she gets to say anything on the lines of "thank you god/allah" or something, but according to the article she was using her valedictorian speech to preach and promote her religion. that's way too far.
the school will lose for withholding the diploma as the situation does not fall within the few cases where a diploma can be withheld, but what she did was seriously objectionable.
2007-09-02 08:09:55 · answer #3 · answered by implosion13 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It would definitely bother me if a muslim started preaching his religion to everyone during graduation, but I wouldn't take away his diploma. I'd see that as a person that needs to hear about Jesus. If he just thanked Allah and Muhammad, that's his right, and he may see it as necessary, but I wouldn't. As a differing viewpoint, as long as he's not vulgar or downgrading to anyone, his speech is his speech.
And I feel the same way about the girl.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_6760212
for those of you who want to read the story
2007-09-02 07:25:06 · answer #4 · answered by Christian #3412 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
A touchy subject these days, but a public school is a not a church, though I agree with you that muslims don't see it that way and want their prayer room wherever they are. So if freedom of religion (to say nothing of freedom of speech) is guaranteed in the Constitution, then the school will (unfortunately) lose.
2007-09-02 07:38:20 · answer #5 · answered by robert43041 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
She didn't just mention having a personal relationship with Jesus. She didn't just say "I think God and praise God." She deviated from the speech that had been approved and what she did say could be taken as proselytizing.
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This is from the Rocky Mountain News:
Then, deviating from the 30-second speech that had been approved by the principal, she began speaking about "someone who loves you more than you could ever imagine."
"His name is Jesus Christ," Corder said. "If you don't already know him personally, I encourage you to find out more about the sacrifice he made for you."
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2007-09-02 07:27:32 · answer #6 · answered by milomax 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
that is sooo wrong!! we have the right of free speech and freedom of religion so the school should have never taken away her diploma for mentioning Jesus!! or any religion for that matter.
2007-09-02 07:22:45 · answer #7 · answered by Jesus=Savior<3 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
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2016-10-03 12:58:30 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well, unless it was a private school then technically that was a violation of church and state and as valedictorian she must be smart enough to know better than to do that in a public forum. However, even so, I see no reason for them to withhold her diploma over it. She just used bad judgment but that isn't a crime.
2007-09-02 07:24:39 · answer #9 · answered by genaddt 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
I would say that if she were warned not to mention her religious beliefs, they could criticize her, but to take her diploma away until she apologizes, no way.
2007-09-02 07:26:48 · answer #10 · answered by expertless 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
In my opinion, I also share your thoughts. Why don't we just honor her opinion? Anyway, she is not forcing the issue to anybody. She's just sharing her feelings to everyone else out there. That's why the world is in trouble 'coz of this nonsense.
2007-09-02 08:18:30 · answer #11 · answered by jun b 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋