is this the core problem for the Jesus story......?

Question

1. If Jesus was the Son of God and the Biblical accounts are accurate, then why is Jesus so glaringly absent from the other historical accounts of the time?

2. If Jesus wasn't the Son of God but rather just a person, then how did nothing more than a "marginal Jew" become elevated to the status of God so shortly after his death and earthly burial?

That Jesus began as the mythical Son of God in the first place solves both of these problems and is more in line with both the facts and the traditional Christian story.

Answer 1

Jesus WAS the son of God and the reason He doesn't appear in other historic accounts was that people in ,say, Europe had no way of hearing about him...Sky news wasn't around at that time.

Answer 2

The core problem with the story of jesus is that he never claimed to be the son of god, he said he was the son of man. And he was simply a prophet who wanted to bring judaism back in line. At that time judaism was in the hands of people who saw it as a way of making money. Everyone seems to think jesus was the first christian but he wasn't, he was a jew and he'd probably be disgusted that a new religion had been started that worships him on a level with god.

Jesus wasn't considered divine until a few centuries later when the bible was put together by the romans as a convenient way of controling people. Have you noticed how there's very little in the bible about jesus' middle life? We know about his birth because it shows him as divine and we know about his last years because again it shows him as divine. But what about his middle years? It's because he was a normal human (not divine) jewish man. No doubt he got married and had children as this was the norm for a jewish man of that time. But all this is left out because it would show him as a regular man, not the son of god.

Answer 3

I prefer your third option, but, the first century was a momentous time period. It was the dawn of the new age of Pisces. It's not unlikely that an ordinary rabble rouser could end up being turned into a legend and then a mythical figure in such a time.

(1) is not a reasonable possibility.

Answer 4

Jesus did exist, but he is only known and mentioned for causing a nuisance by claiming to be the son of a god.
No-one believed him except twelve of his friends, all of which were homo-sexual, including Judas who shopped him to the Romans because he was jealous of Jesus`s attention to Peter and Paul.
The Romans crucified him, as they did with all those who claimed to be the son of a god and, as it was not one of their gods, like Thor or Mars etc, they crucified him. He cried out for his father, but his `father` was too busy fornicating with his mother, Mary. Any other god took no notice as he, Jesus, was a fraud
That`s about it really

Answer 5

There is more evidence of the life of Jesus than there is of William the Conqueror or Henry VIII. The Roman secret service had him under surveillance for years and his file was one of the largest they had. In 321AD, the Catholic Church took over the Roman civil service and the file is in the Vatican library. Most historians of the time also make mention of him, particularly Josephus.

Answer 6

109. Jesus said, "The (Father's) kingdom is like a person who had a treasure hidden in his field but did not know it. And [when] he died he left it to his [son]. The son [did] not know about it either. He took over the field and sold it. The buyer went plowing, [discovered] the treasure, and began to lend money at interest to whomever he wished."

1) Every person has hidden treasure within them, Jesus was self realized and saw God within him. Everyone and everything exist as a result of God starting the universe. The universe is within God and God is within the universe. That means every living creature is a part of God, and hence the metaphor that Jesus is a son of God. People who aren't self realized see not their true selves and so disown God. This is why their souls are fallen.

2) The allegation that Jesus is a marginal Jew is clearly rubbish. Marginal Jew's do not get up the noses of the Sanhedrin and end up being silenced for it. Clearly Jesus was a figure head for a movement that the Sanhedrin dispized and feared: If he was marginal, he would have died in history like so many marginal self proclaimed prophets. Stories of Jesus had spread along traditional trading routes accross the middle east, and mesapotamia. Jesus is to God as an avatar is to a computer game player.

Check out what Jesus says' about himself::
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13. Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to something and tell me what I am like."

Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a just messenger."

Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher."

Thomas said to him, "Teacher, my mouth is utterly unable to say what you are like."

Jesus said, "I am not your teacher. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring that I have tended."
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**Hence here Jesus acknowledges that Thomas has seen God in himself and therefore recognized Jesus.

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3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you. There is light within a person of light, and it shines on the whole world. If it does not shine, it is dark."
70. Jesus said, "If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

83. Jesus said, "Images are visible to people, but the light within them is hidden in the image of the Father's light. He will be disclosed, but his image is hidden by his light."

84. Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you are happy. But when you see your images that came into being before you and that neither die nor become visible, how much you will have to bear!"
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God creates everything, so every living being is alive because of what God started into motion. Like a spark that starts a fire, and the fire spreads: It consumes the whole world.

Further more, a son will honour his father. Jesus honoured God by his devotion, and so is acting as a son does for his father.

What is important about Jesus is the teachings: The word of God. It is better for a person to study that, than the narrative.

Answer 7

It wasn't shortly after his death. It was a good 70 plus years.

Answer 8

He's not absent from ALL other accounts of history.

He's in the Koran, and in Greek history, Jewish history, Roman history, and many middle Eastern histories... and this too:

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=Scribe+of+Damascus&submit=Submit

So, why do you think he's absent, how far and wide have you checked?

Answer 9

Jesus is in the Bible from Genesis through Revelation, He existed in heaven before coming to earth to be born as a human and ascended back to heaven not long after his death and resurrection, Jesus is God's Son, not God.

Answer 10

1 the histories of man are controlled by the fallen angel(if that deciever wants to destroy all written records he probably could barring);
the HOLY GHOST that runs from cover to cover throughout the BIBLE keeps those books whole; unchanged....
Tacticus says in 103AD that it is indeed strange times that a Roman fears to speak what is on His mind.....
just so you know............
2 JESUS EMMANUEL (that being interpreted as GOD with us) is GOD made flesh
rose from the dead........
salvation....
HE
has
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