A question for Christians.....?

Question

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Gensis 1, The Creation)

Scientists have now proven that the earth and all the other planets in the solar system, and even the Sun, formed after a star exploded at the end of its life and left behind a nebula, because otherwise, heavier elements such as gold could not be present in the earth's crust.

What would you say to someone who pointed this out to you? Please don't feel I'm attacking your religion, I'm just a very curious person. I asked my Christian friends. They're regular church goers and said they'd try and find out an answer but they haven't so far.

I just want to be more informed about your religion, that's all, so if any Christian brother or sister can provide a good response to this, I'd be very grateful. No atheists etc please, I don't want answers insulting Christianity or any other form of theism.

Thanks

Thanks for your answers. I do believe in God by the way, and also that Science and religion are not at odds. The fact remains that there is a hell of a lot of evidence out there that our solar system did not form when the Big Bang happened. That's why the age of the Sun is approx. 5 bn years whereas the age of the Universe is 15 bn.

To all those saying maybe God caused the star to explode... well, yeah that could be the case.. except, it states that 'in the BEGINNING' there was just the heaven and earth, and then God created the Sun and other stars etc. Now that would be a contradiction wouldn't it?

Echo

Your answer was very interesting. I looked it up in the Bible, but there it says the stars were made and put into place on the fourth day, after the earth was created.

Your comments, please.

Thanks.

michael m

Thanks for your answer. That is also what I believe. Even Darwin himself said there were far too many gaps in his theory of evolution for it to be fully acceptable.

Peace be to you.

A lot of you seem to think I don't believe in God. No no no no!! I do believe in Him, but I also believe in Science, because in my opinion science and religion are not at odds with each other. The probability of the Big Bang happening of its own accord is zero. You need energy to create matter.. and as science says, light can be converted into matter. You see? They are not at odds!

Answer 1

I'm not a christian, but I had to answer this, due to the fact that I am stunned by some of the answers so far, and on another similar question, one 'alleged' christian said scientist are f****ng IDIOTS.(his words not mine) and hadn't proved anyrhing. I have great trouble accepting people can be so blinkered in their thinking in this day and age. how can anyone ignore medical advances, fossils, carbon dating, the list goes on. I don't se why religion and science can't work along side each other. as a personal view, a christian who would slate scientific advances, are in fact slateing the products of their own god. unless all these advances are in fact the work of the devil/satan to cause confusion and disorder.

Answer 2

Scientists have now proven that the earth and all the other planets in the solar system, and even the Sun, formed after a star exploded at the end of its life and left behind a nebula, because otherwise, heavier elements such as gold could not be present in the earth's crust. What would you say to someone who pointed this out to you?

I would tell them two things. First I would tell them that the Bible doesn't give the age of the earth or this universe. The idea that it does comes from around the fourth century AD when a monk added up some lists in the Bible and used his own method of interpretation to come up with what he thought that the Bible taught about how old the earth is.

Here's a link that examines 7 different ways of interpreting Genesis chapter 1 http://www.christianity.co.nz/science7.htm and the 3rd way which says that the 7 days mentioned were 7 days of God revealing his creative work to the mankind and not the days when God was doing the work of creation seems to have a lot of support.

The second thing that I would tell them is that they were mistaken about thinking that scientists had proved how the earth had been formed. I would point out that scientists who have come up with theories down through the centuries to explain things have found their theories replaced by new theories as new discoveries are made.

The claim that the earth had to be formed a certain way in order for gold to be present in the earth's crust assumes that the model the theory proposes is the only viable model. It's like when scientists used to say that it was impossible for anyone to construct a high powered laser because the heat loss from the beam leaving the machine would melt the barrel that it was exiting from.

After that I would tell them about God's love for them and walk them down the Roman Road as found on the Get Saved button @ http://web.express56.com/~bromar/

Answer 3

Perhaps I'm miss understanding the question, but remember it says that god created the heavens (stars/planets/galaxys/etc.) and -than- the earth. So the creation of the celestial bodies, namely the stars, and planets would have mostly been finished before the earth was created.
The Genesis account was no doubt written in the perspective to a person if they were watching from the earth, so Genesis 1:14 doesn't necessarily have to mean that god created the celestial bodies than, (after the earth was formed) but could have just went along with the increasing of light, from god removing the thick cloud cover from the atmosphere outlined in 1:3. At this point, it cleared up enough to fully see the stars, moon, and sun, and the clearing process was finished and the atmosphere was balanced enough for animal and plant life.
(Don't forget this goes along with the idea, of how the bible expresses 'days' as being 'godly days' of thousands/millions of years, so these things described in the bible took place over long periods of time. Thinking about it, the genesis account, actually says how the earth was formed, and how creation came upon it, in practically the same order it took scientists years to figure out.)

Hope that answered your question, if you have anymore questions or concerns, feel free to IM me.

Answer 4

Scientists have now proven that the earth and all the other planets in the solar system, and even the Sun, formed after a star exploded at the end of its life and left behind a nebula, because otherwise, heavier elements such as gold could not be present in the earth's crust.

Where did the star come from? LOL! So scientists believe in creation ex nihilo! Love those scientists. Fortunately God does too - they just can't handle the truth.

Try this - http://www.setterfield.org/

Answer 5

While I may not be the most devout Christian, I actually swing on the agnostic/Christian pendulum, from what I can summarize, scientists have had the Big bang theory out for quite sometime. And it certainly seems very credible. But no more or no less than any other origin theory.

What you're describing is not actually the Big Bang theory, in fact the formation of the solar system has nothing to do with the big bang theory. Exploding supernovae could simply be God creating the stars and the planets.

Answer 6

I would say to the person: "How does that discovery, assuming it won't be revised in the next few years, disprove Genesis 1:1?"

Our Solar System might not have been created directly by the Big Bang, but that does not mean that God did not cause the Big Bang, then millions of years later cause a star to explode, then form planets to revolve around the Sun and then focus on one planet in that Solar System.

The Bible does not give a time period for "In the beginning". That "beginning" could easily have been millions or billions of years.

Answer 7

OK I can live with that, but where did that star come from? Where did the rest of the stars come from? Where did the very first atom come from? I could go on and and on.
Science hasn't dis proven the existence of God at all, actually most scientist will admit that their has to be some greater force out there than their being nothing. Stephen Hawkings the great professor would agree with this too. Even Darwin who started the idea that we all came from apes even knew in his heart that God was at the source of it all.
People who refuse to believe that God is the creator are fools, the bible says so. even without the bible to deny God is the creator is to deny the very essence of life itself. Now that sounds like a real fool to me.

Look in the mirror, what do you see? You see you of cause. But you also see someone who is unique. their is nobody like you in the entire planet. That mean their are over 6 billion people on the planet and they are all different from you. Thats astonishing. More than that, their has never been anybody like you ever in existence. Science would agree with that. their never will be like you...you are amazing because you sooooooooooooo unique. Your eyes, your finger prints, your charactor and so much more makes you so unique. You prove that God created you.
Look at the sky, the trees, flowers, other people, the stars, the hills, mountains, the sun, moon and the other planets. Are they all here just by chance? How come they all are unique? How come every snowflake is different from all the others? Are they by chance? Chance would repeat itself at some point.

You know the amazing thing about the God who created all this and more is my best friend. He loves me so very much and I know him in my heart. He is my Creator,Saviour, King, Lord, Redeemer, Master, Brother and Friend...He is Jesus. The beautiful thing is, you too can know Him too. Can you imagine knowing the one who created all the world and beyond as your best friend? Come on now that has to be really the best temptation you have ever had. Contact me if you have any questions.

Answer 8

As a Christian and a scientist I believe God created neurons, protons and electrons. These three were put together by God creating a big bang thus the heavens are born.

Neurons, protons and electrons are not clever, they did not think to themselves, lets collide and cause an explosion.

In the bible God created the heavens first (the universe), there is no time with God because he was, is and is to come. De-terming how old the sun, earth etc. is a speculation.

Also, the old testament is important to Christians, but the new testament is much more relevant for a Christian. It's all about Jesus, and His love for us.

Answer 9

Science is theory until it can be experimented, observed and documented. None of this criteria has been met. Before the "Big Bang" there was nothing. Nada, zip, zilch, nill. Completely empty. then it all exploded and created an orderly universe. Where did the energy come from? Has anyone ever witnessed an explosion create order of any kind? There are explosions everyday, in many different forms. They can only create disorder. Why would the beginning of everything be any different? It just doesn't reason out. There is to much order in everything to believe that it all came about by time and chance. 9 billion cells in the human body working harmoniously together. The DNA is a work of art to say the least. Everything points to the Creator. It is all so intricate to even think that it just came together.

Answer 10

Scientists haven't "proved" it, first of all.... If they really proved it, it'd be ALL over the news. Science does not venture as far as to say it knows or has proved it. Science just takes into account the facts we've gathered and attempts to explain it.


Second, I'd say there are other ways God can be present. Why can't it be that God caused that star to explode.....

(((how would the star come into being in the first place, by the way?)))


I wish I could give a better answer but I'd 100% recommend reading The Case For a Creator by Lee Strobel. It covers a LOT of topics, all within the general subject of creation (evolution, planetary theory, science, stars, etc). It'd answer your question better.