Isn't it unfair of people to denounce immigration given that the whole of US is made of immigrants?

Question

The whole of country of US was founded by immigrants, many of whom came here to encroach the land of the native americans (Red Indians). Isn't it hypocritical when you call to stop immigration now?

Answer 1

There are some people against immigration in general. But in today's society that can not happen, people are more educated; more able to travel; able to move about the world through work. So no, you can not stop it.

What needs to be addressed is illegal immigration which is a totally different issue from LEGAL immigration. That is what needs to be stopped!

Answer 2

Stopping immigration into the U.S. and wanting to curb illegal immigration are two different things. Anybody that believes we should seal our borders to immigrants are being hypocrites, but I believe their numbers are few. The U.S will always allow a certain amount of immigrants, but 9/11 has changed the way we look at security. Our borders need to be secure so nobody crosses illegally. Amnesty is an incentive for more law breakers and breaking the law should always have negative consequences. A baby born to an illegal should have the same citizenship as their parent no matter where they're born! Hear that Canada?

Answer 3

The U.S. is a country now with laws that we all have to obey otherwise we would be fined or thrown in jail.

We're not living back in the days when "indians were encroached".

We have laws and illegals break those laws when they cross our borders. And some U.S. citizens are a bit ticked off at our politicians and employers who don't seem to care.

But many citizens seem to care because we have to pay taxes for all kinds of free benefits plus we have to pay taxes to send illegal children to school.

The police can't even ask if someone is an illegal. I have no idea why. Would it hurt their feelings? Are illegals special? Are they above the law?

Illegals aren't loyal to the U.S. They don't care about our laws or customs or our flag or our history. They're just here to make money and enjoy the benefits.

Legal immigrants are welcome because they follow the rules and they actually WANT to live in the U.S. and become citizens.

Answer 4

Well, most of us were born here, and when you start looking at history you have to look at historical circumstances. For example when my latest ancestors came, in the 1960's, the government needed farmers and gave land to those who would farm it - no health care, no seeds, no welfare, and my great grandparents and their neighbors built the school and church with their own hands and passed the hat for salaries for the teacher and preacher. They bought into a good deal for them, but it was a fair trade and noone else subsidized them or was put out by it. When their children grew, there was no more homestead land for their citizen children, much less for foreigners who already were no longer so 'needed'.

Now we have too many people. We intentionally went to a zero replacement birth rate in the 70s. We NEVER wanted to have 300,000,000 million people, much less the 150 million more projected from the current rate of immigration. There isn't enough clean water, and our jobs, schools and health care are being ruined.

Times change, and cumulative numbers matter.

Answer 5

I think some of it deals with how exactly immigration went down in the past. When my great grandfather came to Ellis Island, he was subjected to many different processes, including screening for any medical problems. Basically, he did it legally. I think some people would back off if immigrants came into the States legally instead of just thinking they have a God-given right to be here.

Answer 6

You can say that easily enough. But do you drive an "automobile"? Have you ever taken an "aspirin"? Does your house benefit from the safety of "grounding" provided by a simple "lightning rod" (invented by Benjamin Franklin and protected by patent law)?

All these things make you dependent on the "modern world".

A world you'd be loathe to abandon for the simpler, more wolf-ingested times of yore.

Most indigenous peoples of the Americas have done far more than assimilate - they have contributed and become LEADERS in this modern world.

In fact, if you'll read Cowlitz tribe-member Rod Van Mechelen's articles concerning Native Americans, you'll quickly realize that the tribes would have been as quick to conquer Europe as Europe conquered them, had the technological race started here instead of there.

This innocence and naive assumption will only serve to stumble those who cloak themselves in it.

The tribes were at war long before Columbus and would STILL be in their struggles were it not for the unavoidable forces of convergence that ultimately affect ALL people.

Some simple advice: Don't be bested in the art of introspection by those you think you criticize. If they're looking inward and you aren't, they're ahead of you despite your best intentions to corral and convict them.



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Elizabeth, above, has a noble and sweet vision for a better world. Remember, though, that the road to hell is paved and re-paved with good intentions. If she were to lose a child or two to the chaotic clashes happening regularly as a result of the absence of law, I predict that her explanations and hopes would be qualified, then revised, then changed then... then she'd ultimately accept that LAW, like government, is more than just an evil thing. It is, and has always been, a necessary evil.

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Answer 7

My ancestors immigrated causing massive disruption and ultimately all but destruction to the culture of the people already living here.

I am not responsible for what my ancestors did. I was born here. I am not an immigrant.

That said. The idea that we can just throw open our borders to whoever, how many ever, want to come here is just crazy. This was never really a wide open country. It sure isn't now. We have all we can do to take care of our own people regardless of their color, don't need any more people, regardless of their color.

Answer 8

As a First Nations, U.S. native American indian, let me start by informing you that we consider "red indians" to be a racist slur, and offensive term. If you knew the history of this nation, you would understand why. Would you be using the "N" word when making reference to black people"?

To answer the question about immigration:
The people of this nation, including U.S. native American indians do not support illegal immigration, or illegal immigrants.
I do not think the people of the United States have any problem with legal immigrants.
Illegal immigrants are criminals, they enter the USA illegally, or overstay a visa in violation of United States federal laws, knowing that in doing so they commit a crime. That is wrong and it is unlawful. It is disrespectful of our nations sovereignty, our nations laws, our borders, our history and our citizens.

People need to understand there is a fundamental difference between people who apply to immigrate legally and those who make a premeditated decision to violate our immigration laws. The illegal immigrants tend to break all laws after they are here, they are inherantly of criminal mindset, they will never function as a law abiding citizen.

This nation has the right, as a sovereign nation, to protect our borders from invasion, including the invasion of foreign nationals who come here to take more than they contribute to our nation, who do not want to be a law abiding citizen of this nation, who will never put the interests of this nation, and the people of this nation above the interests of their homeland.

Answer 9

You could say that the only continent with true natives is Africa, because all migrations began there. Immigration has beneficial effects, but in a congested country (like the UK) it does need to be controlled in some way.

Answer 10

Hmmmm, let me see if I understand this right.......
I was born in the US,
my parents were born in the US,
both sets of grandparents were born in the US,
all of their parents were born in the US,
etc,
etc,
etc,
back until the late 1600's.
This makes me an immigrant how again?

You think US immigration laws are tough, read the Mexican Constitution.