so i'm reading this lady's resume and it says she was 5 years in the United States Army and held the rank of 2nd Lt.. This lady has a birth defect that has left her shoulder and elbow fused with very little range of motion. Could someone in a similar condition join the army? Could she have been in ROTC and catapulted past basic training into an officer's rank?
2007-09-01 18:31:49 · 15 answers · asked by der_grosse_e 6 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
Irt depends on how serious, but they can refuse you
2007-09-01 18:47:38 · answer #1 · answered by Experto Credo 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
5 years in the Army and she was only a 2LT!!! 5 years in the Army nowadays is Captain. A major physical defect like you just described would mean she would be ineligible to join. I am in Army ROTC and I served 5 years as an enlisted guy and I saw guys get the boot for being a little overweight. Not being able to move an arm would have immediately disqualified her due to the fact she could not have fired a weapon. It is possible that this birth defect only recently has been a problem, but her only getting to 2LT in 5 years means she either got kicked out, or did not get promoted due to something bad.
If she indeed did serve in the US Army (which is highly suspect) then she needs to produce a DD 214 which is the paperwork EVERYONE who gets out the military is given. It basically has her entire career in a nutshell on one page. Her type of discharge (honorable, dishonorable, medical, etc.) , her rank when she got out, how many years of service she had, what schools she went to........
It is possible for her to have hid this physical defect long enough to get into the Army but from what you are saying it sounds pretty serious. If the Army found out that she had a physical birth defect and chose not to tell them then they probably would have court martialed her for fraudulent enlistment. I don't see how she had this birth defect and how she managed to do push-ups.
I am not going to say she is lieing because I know enough to know everyone has a story, but hers does sound odd. Ask for the DD 214.
2007-09-01 18:48:25 · answer #2 · answered by SL 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
the only way she could have been in the service with that type of range of motion issue would have been through medical waivers, and this does happen from time to time depending on what the MOS (job) someone may be doing. If she was in a highly specialized MOS, had a college education and scored high on her ASVAB, it is a big possiblity.
If you are in doubt, simply ask for a copy of her military discharge papers. Since she is a veteran, you would need them for Vet Preference hiring standards. (and if you are just snooping, and reading a resume and not a hiring manager, then you don't need to know anyhow, now do you?)
No one ever skips BCT...even those with a 4 year degree have to do BCT before they are sent to OTS.
2007-09-01 18:45:02 · answer #3 · answered by simmychick 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
She's lying. First, in five years of service she would have reached the rank of First Lieutenant at least. Secondly, the defect you describe and its limitation of motion would be disqualifying for appointment as an officer. The sole exception would have been a commission as a doctor in the Army Medical Corps. In that case she would have entered as a Captain. I'm a retired officer of the Navy Medical Department.
2007-09-01 19:55:00 · answer #4 · answered by desertviking_00 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
if she had very limited motion with her arm and shoulder she might not be speaking whole truths. you can always ask to see her discharge paperwork. but if i remember correctly you must be fit enough to shoot a weapon and do the physical fitness test, so that means push up sit up and run. plush if she said she was in the army for 5 years and only a 2nd LT that sounds fishy, usually they get promoted in a year to 1st LT.
2007-09-01 20:30:50 · answer #5 · answered by Jopa 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
ROTC or not ALL recruits go through basic training and AIT no exceptions. then they continue to OTC. if she got in then the condition is not serious enough to limit physical activity, or she would have washed out any way it is yes or no I've seen stranger things. ask her for her DD form 214 that will tell you all you need to know about her military record.
2007-09-01 18:54:43 · answer #6 · answered by nela jane and husband 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hmmm...it sounds kinda iffy to me. I would ask for a DD214, reading what kind of discharge she received. I recall a guy who had his last asthma attack at the age of 9....nothing, so he didn't mention it when he enlisted, well, lo and behold, in basic, he had an attack. They requested a copy of his childhood medical records. Why his mom agreed to it, I don't know, but they bounced him from the service with a dishonorable discharge.
You might be able to sneak something by during enlistment, but it has to be pretty small and this physical defect doesn't seem to fit.
2007-09-01 19:48:10 · answer #7 · answered by Yankee Micmac 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I don't think she would have been in the Army with that condition. If for no other reason, it would keep her from passing her PT test.
There is one sure way to find out though. Ask her to provide you with a copy of her DD214. If she was in the military, she will be more than happy to provide you a copy.
2007-09-01 18:43:54 · answer #8 · answered by Jim K 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
quite highly doubtful she was ever in the military.
I was turned down, even though I'm in great physical condition now. I had cancer at the age of 15. that was 12 years ago, and still the Navy denied me.
Damn, that sucked!
2007-09-01 18:38:23 · answer #9 · answered by My Name Is Ken 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
A birth defect like that disqualifies her from any branch of the military. I highly doubt she was in the military.
2007-09-01 19:12:03 · answer #10 · answered by USMCgrlandMommy 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think this is NOT the truth. No one with such a defect would be able to pass the physical for induction into the military.
2007-09-02 00:53:46 · answer #11 · answered by WC 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋