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...like in the Bible and today, should be diagnosed as schizophrenics or should schizophrenia patients who hallucinate be classed as Spiritual People? What is the difference the experiences are real to both of them?

2007-09-01 16:37:29 · 14 answers · asked by Mad Mac 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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It depends on the situation. Some people's experiences are delusions. Some aren't. Many of these experiences, even if they aren't real, can't necessarily be classified as schizophrenic.

BTW, whether or not God exists, prayer has been known to have healthy effects in the same way laughter does. It just make some people feel better. Is there really anything wrong with that?

2007-09-01 16:51:32 · answer #1 · answered by Kate 3 · 0 0

It is amazing how much alike these to things seem to be isn't it? I think the reason for this is that both the spiritual and those classified as mentally ill access areas of the brain that most other don't. But this leads me to the question of should we turn the mental hospitals into houses of worship or start handing out straight jacket at the door of religious institutions.

2007-09-01 16:50:07 · answer #2 · answered by Silver phoenix 3 · 0 0

Genuine Spiritual People(hard to accept), builds spirit of being alive. while Schizophrenia People builds nothing about living.

2007-09-01 16:47:11 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Spiritual People are People who Climb Up to Heaven "Legally" through Jesus Christ, Risen from the Dead.
They Learn to Climb Up and Protect themselves from satans attacks.

Schizophrenics don't have Jesus to help them Climb out of What came upon them. (satans attacks).

2007-09-01 16:54:13 · answer #4 · answered by maguyver727 7 · 0 0

All of them just need a good therapist. And it still reddens me to think of the misconcept of a convulsive seizure being a contact with god.

2007-09-01 16:46:45 · answer #5 · answered by midnitepoets 6 · 1 0

Spiritual people know that if what they hear (inside their head or outside it) doesn't agree with what the Bible says then they shouldn't listen to it. It's important to know that reality exists independently of perception.

2007-09-01 16:47:29 · answer #6 · answered by Paulie D 5 · 0 1

We are not in the position to judge. The universe is full of mysteries. Science is only as good as the present and continually changing.

2007-09-01 16:46:18 · answer #7 · answered by mcw 4 · 0 1

Do Buddhists believe in a creator god?

No, we do not. There are several logical reasons for this. The Buddha, like modern scientists, sociologists and psychologists, believed that religious ideas and especially the god idea have their origins in fear. The Buddha says:

"Gripped by fear men go to sacred mountains, sacred groves, sacred trees and shrines." *Dhammpada 188

Primitive man found himself in a dangerous and hostile world, the fear of wild animals, of not being able to find enough food, of injury or disease, and of natural phenomena like thunder, lightning and volcanoes was constantly with him. Finding no security, he created the idea of god in order to give him comfort in good times, courage in times of danger and consolation when things went wrong. To this day, you will notice that people become more religious at times of crises, you will hear them say that the belief in a god gives them the strength they need to deal with life. You will hear them explain that they believe in god because they prayed in time of need and their prayer was answered. All this seems to support the Buddha’s teaching that the god-idea is a response to fear and frustration. The Buddha taught us to try to understand our fears, to lessen our desires and to calmly and courageously accept the things we cannot change. He replaced fear, not with irrational belief but with rational understanding.

The second reason the Buddha did not believe in a creator god is because there does not seem to be any evidence to support this idea. There are numerous religions, all claiming that they alone have god’s words preserved in their holy book, that they alone understand god’s nature, that their god exists and that the gods of other religions do not. Some claim that god is masculine, some that she is feminine and others that it is neuter. They are all satisfied that there is ample evidence to prove the existence of their god but they laugh in disbelief at the evidence other religions use to prove the existence of another god. It is not surprising that with so many different religions spending so many centuries trying to prove the existence of their gods that still no real, concrete, substantial or irrefutable evidence has been found. Buddhists suspend judgement until such evidence is forthcoming.

The third reason the Buddha did not believe in a creator god is that the belief is not necessary. Some claim that the belief in a god is necessary in order to explain the origin of the universe. But this is not so. Science has very convincingly explained how the universe came into being without having to introduce the god-idea. Some claim that belief in god is necessary to have a happy, meaningful life. Again we can see that this is not so. There are millions of Atheists, free-thinkers and Buddhists, who live useful, happy and meaningful lives without belief in a creator god. Some claim that belief in god’s power is necessary because humans, being weak, do not have the strength to help themselves. Once again, the evidence indicates the opposite. One often hears of people who have overcome great disabilities and handicaps, enormous odds and difficulties through their own inner resources, through their own efforts and without belief in a god. Some claim that god is necessary in order to give man salvation. But this argument only holds good if you accept the theological concept of salvation and Buddhists do not accept such a concept. Based on his own experience, the Buddha saw that each human being had the capacity to purify the mind, develop infinite love and compassion and perfect understanding. He shifted attention from the heavens to the heart and encouraged us to find solutions to our problems through self-understanding.

But if there is no creator god how did the universe get here?

All religions have myths and stories which attempt to answer this question. In ancient times, when man simply did not know, such myths were adequate, but in the 20th century, in the age of physics, astronomy and geology, such myths have been superseded by scientific fact. Science has explained the origin of the universe without recourse to the god-idea.

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2007-09-02 09:48:57 · answer #8 · answered by Thomas 6 · 0 0

Ah Mac. Remember what I use to say to guys like you. Well I thought it so I have to ask for your forgiveness.
Are you sure you aren't just bi-polar or something treatable.

2007-09-07 05:03:19 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It is a want and desire to believe, some humans need this you can call it their compass and comfort. These people are sane to compare them to schizoids is harsh, but they are certainly misguided.

2007-09-01 16:49:47 · answer #10 · answered by wakemovement 3 · 0 0

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