Why do atheists (or most of them, anyway). Refuse to accept the possibility of a designer?
I have come across many who dis-regard anything I say, in regards to the evidence of God I have witnessed, and others who claim that God does not exist as a fact, yet they have not seen nor understood everything in the universe.
Since, as any good scientist knows, we can not determin facts based on un-tested theories, how can thye claim God doesn't exist? If anything, all atheists are bing very ignorant of their own logic, and should technically be agnostics.
Agnostics, at least, aren't claiming to be "all-knowing".
2007-09-01
02:23:33
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If I were to give my evidence of God, you will ridicule me and tell me it is not true, that it is all a psychological illusion.
Oh well, I have lived in Third World Countries where Sorcery rules the roost, and I have seen the Supernatural darkness. I have seen the power of God in action (visible action).
But people just don't care for that sort of example, because for them,seeing is believing. They don't believe what they don't want to.
2007-09-01
02:31:45 ·
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Also, apparently proof of God must be re-testble by man. Why do atheists always assume that, if there is a possibility of a God, that they are capable of experimenting to see if he is true.
Here is a test: God may very well be real. Even if you don't believe, I challenge you to read the Bible for 1 hour every day. Do it for a month. Just read it like another work of fiction or something.
2007-09-01
02:35:40 ·
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Jadore: I was just asking, beacuase i have continuously been bashed and barraged with questions. Paul did not preach his sermons as Butterflies and Puppydogs.
The Live and Let Die attitude which has become favoruable with the Christian church of late is reminiscent of what Revelation reffered to as "Laodicea". The luke-warm church who were neither on fire, or out cold.
The church who did not bother to talk to others, and to dispute accusations. This is a dangerous way to live, and it will result in hypo-spirituality (think hypo-thermia, yougradually get more and more numb, until all of a sudden, even though you think you're fine, you are nothing more than a luke-warm christian.
I don't want to sit back and watch others claim their facts as facts, I want to stir controversy and make people think abotu WHY they believe what they believe. If I offend someone, then so be it, but at least they are thinking enough to be offended.
I don't want to sit back and be luke-warm anymore
2007-09-01
02:40:53 ·
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Some of you are ex-Christian Atheists, well I'm the other way around.
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I'm the ex-atheist Christian.
Well, I felt very absurd growing up in a Christian background, but not believing. I called myself Agnostic, even though I was almost sure God didn't exist.. I am now a Christian.
But it doesn;t matter what proof I give (Such as the encounter with Demons and the like) because unless I can give proof in tangible form, I won't be believed.
2007-09-01
03:03:54 ·
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Sadly, those who trust in science don't think that there is another way to see the world. If it can't be 'proven' by science, it doesn't exist.
Mind you we can't blame them, God will need to reveal himself to them as he has to you and I before they can believe.
2007-09-01 05:49:41
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answered by good tree 6
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I don't think you travel around anywhere near enough to have had personal contact with "most atheists" to have a clue what "most atheists" think or say. But it is pretty obvious why a-theists refuse to accept a mysterious invisible "designer" superbeing... because that is what a-theist means. I guess I could ask why it is that all "believers" insist there IS such a being. DUH, because that is what being a "believer" means - one who accepts the existence of a God.
Personally I don't question for a moment that there are intelligent beings elsewhere in the vastness of the Cosmos who are infinitely ahead of us in knowledge and capability. It isn't a very long step from that to imagining the possibility that such extremely superior beings might possibly have had a hand in our personal history in some way. Perhaps they seeded planet earth with the original living matter from which all forms of life would eventually spring. That, at least, is a more feasible theory to me than the suggestion that some sky god took a fistful of dirt and blew on it and Pooooofff, there was Adam.
I suspect that people have disregarded anything you say regarding your claim to have witnessed evidence of God's existence, because they have heard it aaaaalll before, many claims from many people. Yours is just another one like all the others. Atheists, incidentally have never claimed to understand everything in the Universe. That is exactly the point, they are disgusted when other people who equally do not "know", insist that THEY do.
Actually I am curious why any of it bothers you so much. Why not just get on about your own business, live your own life, believe whatever it is you want to believe, and simply respect the right of other people to do likewise?
2007-09-01 02:48:30
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answered by Anonymous
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YOUR evidence that YOU have witnessed? That's not proof.
You can also turn your question around. You do not hold all the facts and hence you cannot determine if there is a God. You cannot determine facts based on untested theories, right?
Now, since we're at a stalemate, I'll make this more atheistic. Any good scientist would also use the null-hypothesis to determine if there is a creator. So far we have no evidence so it's logical to say there is no God.
2007-09-01 02:42:42
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answered by Equinox 5
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I've considered the possibility of a designer-created universe.
It would appear to be an indifferent or malicious designer, given some of the events and details to be found in nature.
"I challenge you to read the Bible for 1 hour every day. Do it for a month. Just read it like another work of fiction or something."
Oh, I've done a lot more than that, and prayed with tears and fasting. And I'm not joking one bit.
But then I'm an ex-Christian atheist.
And I made that move very deliberately after careful thought and study of the bible.
2007-09-01 02:59:15
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answered by Pedestal 42 7
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theres always a possibility of a designer, but then the question arises who designed the designer and who designed that designer etc. Unfortunately there is no evidence of a designer beyond the ideas of the various religions and their only argument is their own scriptures which are man made crafted from their own local mythologies, not very scientific.
At best if there was a designer, then he/she/it is an absentee landlord, as someone once said, Intelligent Design basically means 'the big boy did it then ran away!'
The idea of a designer beyond the beginning of the universe is an appealing one, but so is the Loch Ness monster and the Yeti. If you want to believe in a designer, then thats fine, but convincing other people does take some evidence, not 'I believe therefore you must!'
2007-09-01 02:49:09
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answered by numbnuts222 7
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I'm an atheist, I don't KNOW whether there is a god or not, just like I don't know whether there is a flying tea pot orbiting the sun who heals sick people? who knows?! but there is no evidence to suggest this is true.
so you claim you have witnessed some sort of evidential factor from god, what, where, how, when, proof? see you can't just make up a claim and expect people to believe you! it's ridiculous!
yes we cannot determine facts on un tested hypothesis, so why are you still adamant there is a god?
2007-09-01 02:34:36
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answered by Anonymous
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theists require proof and no proof involves personal experiense but verifiable evidence.
creationism has no proof apart from a book which is contradictory at best, ID uses science but omits the parts of scientific laws which are proven and inconvenient to what they want to prove.
what evidence of god have you got that is possibly verifiable and not based on personal experience ie a feeling, a personal conviction of what was behind the event. if you can provide that then you would be rich so lets see it
2007-09-01 03:22:43
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answered by manapaformetta 6
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I would need to see some substantial evidence. By that i mean credible evidence that there is no doubt whatsoever of some deity. The bible is just a book of stories so doesn't count. If and when any credible evidence is produced (which is highly unlikely) then i will reconsider.
2007-09-01 02:40:07
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answered by Anonymous
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Some people love having a go at chiristians, and you haven't even said that you believe in God. If a person wasn't claiming to believe in any religion, surely it would be more logical to keep an open mind to the possibility of a 'great designer' and be an angnostic.
2007-09-01 02:35:20
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answered by nettyone2003 6
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I think it is a little unreasonable for atheists to expect religious people to provide proof that God exist, when they know very well that God (as depicted in the Bible, for instance) wants to be accepted on faith alone. Presumably, if there is a God, and He/She wished to be obeyed without question then He/She would reveal Him/Herself and we would be too shocked and awed to do anything other than to obey Him/Her. I know I would. But we are given free will and how we live our lives may be a test of how well we overcome temptation. I am agnostic so I don't rule out the above reasoning for myself.
2007-09-01 02:46:00
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answered by william a 6
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I can design things but that doesn't make me a god
I can change my world and perform small miracles by trying hard but that doesn't make me god
I can answer call of help from neighbors but that doesn't make me god
I know what you mean, but see also that in real time we have seen nature evolve to adapt and even new species come about as a result of human architecture, urban developement
but that doesn't make us god
2007-09-01 02:31:23
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answered by voice_of_reason 6
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