atheists, do you think when christians say that god exists they truly believe that? (details)?

Question

we are all human beings and parts of a material world, one of our inborn features is perception we learn to accept things based on perception, we know something is real when we perceive it with our senses (dont come with love exists and we dont see it since love doesnt exist on its own, it is just an emotion and an emotion exists because a mind creates it), no matter how brainwashed you are, it is not possible to really believe something is real if you dont perceive it with your senses, delusional people who believe an unexistent being is real actually see and/or hear the unexistent being, they dont just believe Bunny the rabbit is real because someone tells them but they can really see him or hear him, his mind really creates that "vision"....
How can a non delusional person (that is a person whose brain is not damaged to the extent of creating an actual perception of something unreal) really believe the existence of something that goes beyond his/her perception?

i dont mean to attack religious people, i really think believing something is real needs perception ( talking about perception not feeling , feelings as any creation of the mind can be easily distorted and made believe)

emotions are created by your mind, they may be powerful in the sense that they may lead your life but cannot be powerful on themselves since they wouldnt exist without your brain.

one cannot be forced to believe, one can be forced to accept and say he/she believes...belief based on fear means the person accepts out loud whatever not that the person really experiences what he/she is forced to believe

and i truly mean no attack, but i really think non perceptive elements (dont know the exact translation) cant be believed as real

children believe in santa because their perception of the world is limited, they trust their parents and they see results...it is not so difficult for a child to stop believing in Santa once his/her parents tell him santa doesnt exist. if that was a real believe it would be almost impossible for a child to stop believing in santa...what you call belief i call confidence in their parent´s words

faith is not believing faith is hoping one´s believes are real...extreme hope may lead to make believe

evermoms, why do psychiatrists are asked about someone sanity, why not asking the patient directly??? (sorry for the comparison)

sorry i posted that questions in the wrong place it belonged to the psychology section, i am not talking attacking believes but talking about the capacity a person has of believing what lies beyond his/her perception

not talking about the rationalization of the belief, just talking about the possiblity or impossibility of a human being to believe what lies beyond his/her perception or the way he/she has learned to distinguish what is real from what is unreal...anyway i quit! what is impossible in here is to ask anything and pretend people will understand you

i rephrase the question:
is it possible for anyone to believe god is as real as the car he/she is driving?

Answer 1

That was very difficult (painful) to get through, but I think I got what you meant. Yes, I do believe that Christians really believe in their god.

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Answer 2

Sounds an awful lot like SOMEONE doesn't want to allow anyone else to express an opinion or belief...and at the same time wants THEIR opinion to be the only one that's right.
I'm an Atheist, and that's not fair. Stop trying to bring the believer's worlds down around them.
Another thing that is "learned" as we grow up, is the generational practices that have been going on in their respective families for years and years and years.
That's why the system DOESN'T exist where, at age 5 or 6, you're pulled aside by an unbiased official, and asked, "Ok, what do you want to be? Catholic? Christian? Muslim? Buddhist?....you get the picture. Most Christians are born into Christian upbringing, and should not be held against them.
Whereas, most Atheists...thanks to free will, are developed, not born. Just because we lose faith, doesn't mean we need to try to take it from others. That's not right.

Answer 3

I disagree; let's look at Santa (BTW, I hate Santa and he has caused me much doubt about faith's reliability, I will admit). Little kids really believe in him. Also, there is logic in Christianity; read "The Case for Christ" if you want to see. And on top of that, I have felt an emotion described in the Bible (Luke 10:21) which has given me faith, and 1Cor 13:3 says love is the only thing that matters, so emotion is the base of Christian thinking and is, in my opinion, a sense.
Thanks for reading this; I hope it made sense. ;)

Answer 4

People didn't all just get the same idea at the same time about God's existence! It really happened and was recorded in a book thousands of years ago and alot of people believe it!


There's nothing wrong with being religious, so just stop trying to put us down. If you guys really think were playing with a sky fairy called God, (Which we aren't) then let us have our fun!

Answer 5

God is not a belief. It's either in you or it isn't.
Maybe you're simply not capable of knowing God.

Why bother asking questions when you don't even want answers!? Why do athiests ask questions in R&S!? Atheism is not a religion!!!

I guess the new "Atheism Religion" is secretly wanting to know God.

Answer 6

I do have self belief interior the skill of prayer, and that perception has better those days. i've got seen it make a brilliant form of distinction. yet i do no longer think of it fairly is an ordinary question. it fairly is ordinary on your faith (or loss of) to be prompted by way of the place you're coming from. think of of God a (loving) determine. the answer to a prayer may well be "specific","no", "perhaps"(there is something you need to do to confirm that what you're praying for to ensue), or "no longer yet/now". while the respond is "no" or "no longer yet", there's a clarification for it. as an occasion, if we've been by no skill ill, we does not savour being nicely. We pass by way of confusing issues, and we study from them; and after that, we are able to empathize greater with others going during the comparable issues. Your actual abuse occasion sticks in my techniques, regardless of the shown fact that. Are you speaking approximately asking him to intrude on the 2nd it fairly is occurring, or interior the long-term, to take you out of the region?

Answer 7

The answer to your question is in this follow up question. How awesome would it be if God was 100% real and you could sit for eternity in a wonderful place next to God? My point being that people just want it to be real so badly that they will drop reason for their own comfort.

Answer 8

Do Buddhists believe in a creator god?

No, we do not. There are several logical reasons for this. The Buddha, like modern scientists, sociologists and psychologists, believed that religious ideas and especially the god idea have their origins in fear. The Buddha says:

"Gripped by fear men go to sacred mountains, sacred groves, sacred trees and shrines." *Dhammpada 188

Primitive man found himself in a dangerous and hostile world, the fear of wild animals, of not being able to find enough food, of injury or disease, and of natural phenomena like thunder, lightning and volcanoes was constantly with him. Finding no security, he created the idea of god in order to give him comfort in good times, courage in times of danger and consolation when things went wrong. To this day, you will notice that people become more religious at times of crises, you will hear them say that the belief in a god gives them the strength they need to deal with life. You will hear them explain that they believe in god because they prayed in time of need and their prayer was answered. All this seems to support the Buddha’s teaching that the god-idea is a response to fear and frustration. The Buddha taught us to try to understand our fears, to lessen our desires and to calmly and courageously accept the things we cannot change. He replaced fear, not with irrational belief but with rational understanding.

The second reason the Buddha did not believe in a creator god is because there does not seem to be any evidence to support this idea. There are numerous religions, all claiming that they alone have god’s words preserved in their holy book, that they alone understand god’s nature, that their god exists and that the gods of other religions do not. Some claim that god is masculine, some that she is feminine and others that it is neuter. They are all satisfied that there is ample evidence to prove the existence of their god but they laugh in disbelief at the evidence other religions use to prove the existence of another god. It is not surprising that with so many different religions spending so many centuries trying to prove the existence of their gods that still no real, concrete, substantial or irrefutable evidence has been found. Buddhists suspend judgement until such evidence is forthcoming.

The third reason the Buddha did not believe in a creator god is that the belief is not necessary. Some claim that the belief in a god is necessary in order to explain the origin of the universe. But this is not so. Science has very convincingly explained how the universe came into being without having to introduce the god-idea. Some claim that belief in god is necessary to have a happy, meaningful life. Again we can see that this is not so. There are millions of Atheists, free-thinkers and Buddhists, who live useful, happy and meaningful lives without belief in a creator god. Some claim that belief in god’s power is necessary because humans, being weak, do not have the strength to help themselves. Once again, the evidence indicates the opposite. One often hears of people who have overcome great disabilities and handicaps, enormous odds and difficulties through their own inner resources, through their own efforts and without belief in a god. Some claim that god is necessary in order to give man salvation. But this argument only holds good if you accept the theological concept of salvation and Buddhists do not accept such a concept. Based on his own experience, the Buddha saw that each human being had the capacity to purify the mind, develop infinite love and compassion and perfect understanding. He shifted attention from the heavens to the heart and encouraged us to find solutions to our problems through self-understanding.

But if there is no creator god how did the universe get here?

All religions have myths and stories which attempt to answer this question. In ancient times, when man simply did not know, such myths were adequate, but in the 20th century, in the age of physics, astronomy and geology, such myths have been superseded by scientific fact. Science has explained the origin of the universe without recourse to the god-idea.

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Answer 9

I don't know if theists really believe their own hype but when they say they love their 'god', their invisible sky thingy, I know they're lying through their teeth.

You can not in all freedom and honesty love something that tell you you're gonna go to hell if you don't suck up to it.
Love under threat or duress is not love - it is FEAR.
Ask any one.

Answer 10

I suppose you are defining the very word "faith." My personal belief is that many people believe in a god, or at last claim they do, because of their fear of punishment.