So the french surrenders to all wars huh??? Get the facts?

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Here you:

http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp

Well,i just have to say we had more death than you in WW2 even if we got crushed by germany in 7 weeks while you were fighting during one year. Also for the free french forces who defeated with only 5 000 mens 80 000 nazis,for La Résistance who gave information for the Allies and helped them to enter in France.

For the WW1,we didn't surrender and fought 4 years against Germany (who was stronger and more numerous than our) and had 1 300 000 deads (not even respects for our dead you f****** yanks)

We had the second empire and has the biggest country of western europe.

Napoleon owned Europe until russia (got beaten by russian winter)

Helped the yanks to their independence war,the greeks for their independence,also for italy...

Fought against english and won all their wars against them during 200 years (plentagenet,saint sardos war and 100 years war)...

Louis XIV won against all european armies during 33 years of war,we invaded england (the last ones who did it) and invaded the romans and germany during Clovis and charlemagne (franc empire).
Oh and before you post "french military victories" so check this out then:
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/American_military_victories

Answer 1

I dont know why people Criticize the French. They've had a glorious Military History:Let's take the toughest case first: the German invasion, 1940, when the French Army supposedly disgraced itself against the Wehrmacht. This is the only real evidence you'll find to call the French cowards, and the more you know about it, the less it proves. Yeah, the French were scared of Hitler. Who wasn't? Chamberlain, the British prime minister, all but licked the Fuhrer's goosesteppers, basically let him have all of Central Europe, because Britain was terrified of war with Germany. Hell, Stalin signed a sweetheart deal with Hitler out of sheer terror, and Stalin wasn't a man who scared easy.

The French were scared, all right. But they had reason to be. For starters, they'd barely begun to recover from their last little scrap with the Germans: a little squabble you might've heard of, called WW I.

WW I was the worst war in history to be a soldier in. WW II was worse if you were a civilian, but the trenches of WW I were five years of Hell like General Sherman never dreamed of. At the end of it a big chunk of northern France looked like the surface of the moon, only bloodier, nothing but craters and rats and entrails.

Verdun. Just that name was enough to make Frenchmen and Germans, the few who survived it, wake up yelling for years afterward. The French lost 1.5 million men out of a total population of 40 million fighting the Germans from 1914-1918. A lot of those guys died charging German machine-gun nests with bayonets. I'd really like to see one of you office smartasses joke about "surrender monkeys" with a French soldier, 1914 vintage. You'd piss your dockers.

****, we strut around like we're so tough and we can't even handle a few uppity Iraqi villages. These guys faced the Germans head on for five years, and we call them cowards? And at the end, it was the Germans, not the French, who said "calf rope."

When the sequel war came, the French relied on their frontier fortifications and used their tanks (which were better than the Germans', one on one) defensively. The Germans had a newer, better offensive strategy. So they won. And the French surrendered. Which was damn sensible of them.

This was the WEHRMACHT. In two years, they conquered all of Western Europe and lost only 30,000 troops in the process. That's less than the casualties of Gettysburg. You get the picture? Nobody, no army on earth, could've held off the Germans under the conditions that the French faced them. The French lost because they had a long land border with Germany. The English survived because they had the English Channel between them and the Wehrmacht. When the English Army faced the Wermacht at Dunkirk, well, thanks to spin the tuck-tail-and-flee result got turned into some heroic tale of a brilliant British retreat. The fact is, even the Brits behaved like cowards in the face of the Wermacht, abandoning the French. It's that simple.

Here's a quick sampler of some of my favorite French victories, like an antidote to those ignorant websites. We'll start way back and move up to the 20th century.

Tours, 732 AD: The Muslims had already taken Spain and were well on their way to taking the rest of Europe. The only power with a chance of stopping them was the French army under Charles "the Hammer" Martel, King of the Franks (French), who answered to the really cool nickname "the Hammer of God." It was the French who saved the continent's ***. All the smart money was on the Muslims: there were 60,000 of them, crazy Jihadis whose cavalry was faster and deadlier than any in Europe. The French army was heavily outnumbered and had no cavalry. Fighting in phalanxes, they held against dozens of cavalry charges and after at least two days of hand-to-hand combat, finally managed to hack their way to the Muslim center and kill their commander. The Muslims retreated to Spain, and Europe developed as an independent civilization.

Orleans, May 1429: Joan of Arc: is she the most insanely cool military commander in history or what? This French peasant girl gets instructions from her favorite saints to help out the French against the English invaders. She goes to the King (well, the Dauphin, but close enough) and tells him to give her the army and she'll take it from there. And somehow she convinces him. She takes the army, which has lost every battle it's been in lately, to Orleans, which is under English siege. Now Joan is a nice girl, so she tries to settle things peaceably. She explains in a letter to the enemy commanders that everything can still be cool, "...provided you give up France...and go back to your own countries, for God's sake. And if you do not, wait for the Maid, who will visit you briefly to your great sorrow." The next day she put on armor, mounted a charger, and prepared to lead the attack on the besiegers' fortifications. She ordered the gates opened, but the Mayor refused until Joan explained that she, personally, would cut off his head. The gates went up, the French sallied out, and Joan led the first successful attack they'd made in years. The English strongpoints were taken, the siege was broken, and Joan's career in the cow-milking trade was over.

Braddock's Defeat (aka Battle of Monongahela) July 1755: Next time you're driving through the Ohio Valley, remember you're passing near the site of a great French victory over an Anglo-American force twice its size. General Edward Braddock marched west from Virginia with 1,500 men -- a very large army in 18th-c. America. His orders were to seize French land and forts in the Valley -- your basic undeclared land-grab invasion. The French joined the local tribes to resist, and then set up a classic ambush. It was a slaughter. More than half of Braddock's force -- 880 men -- were killed or wounded. The only Anglo officer to escape unhurt was this guy called George Washington, and even he had two horses shot out from under him. After a few minutes of non-stop fire from French and Indians hidden in the woods, Braddock's command came apart like something out of Nam, post-Tet. Braddock was hit and wounded, but none of his troops would risk getting shot to rescue him.

Austerlitz, Dec. 1805: You always hear about Austerlitz as "Napoleon's Greatest Victory," like the little guy personally went out and wiped out the combined Russian and Austrian armies. The fact is, ever since the Revolution in 1789, French armies had been kicking *** against everybody. They were free citizens fighting against scared peasant and degenerate mercenaries, and it was no contest. At Austerlitz, 65,000 French troops took on 90,000 Russians and Austrians and destroyed them. Absolutely annihilated them. The French lost only 8,000, compared to 29,000 of the enemy. The tactics Bonaparte used were very risky, and would only have worked with superb troops: he encouraged the enemy to attack a weak line, then brought up reinforcements who'd been held out of sight. That kind of tactical plan takes iron discipline and perfect timing -- and the French had it.

Jena, Oct. 1806: just a quick reminder for anybody who thinks the Germans always beat the French. Napoleon takes on the Prussian army and destroys it. 27,000 Prussian casualties vs. 5,000 French. Prussian army routed, pursued for miles by French cavalry.

But consider these facts. France is in Europe. The Bloodiest continent on this planet. Honestly was European nation hasn't lost wars. Heck the English lost to French Vikings!

But talking about Vietnam? Did the US with all the fire power in the world and the world's most powerful military lost against tiny people wearing pyjamas? YES.

Is the US losing to Iraqis who can barely fire an AK while wearing trousers and nikes? YES.

You can't fight assymetrical wars without blowing up the Sunni Triangle and Basra.

I can sum up all military nations like this:

Germans think up brilliant offensives
The British are cold blooded
Russians are crazy
Chinese dont care about casualties
Israelis fear casualties
Americans need logistics to win everywar
Vietnamese will fight for over 40 years to win a war (maybe not anymore. I think there's an MTV Vietnam now)

Also saying the Americans won the Revolutionary war is like saying the North Alliance won the first stage of the War against the Taliban. Without French ships, men, guns and gunpowder there wouldnt be an United States of America

Answer 2

The Blitzkrieg strategy of the Germans was a new and effective form of warfare. The British and French were expecting a rerun of WW1 but the Belgian King would not allow foreign troops on belgian soil and when he finally relented it was too late. Then he surrender the Belgian Army without warning the French and British which left a huge hole in their defences which the Germans exploited before the French and British could react.

Answer 3

I know, why are the French so hated?

The French Empire wasn't built by surrendering.

Answer 4

The yankees dont have respects for the death. Shameless! Smart people know that the french are better than the fu***** yanks. Hey american before insulting the french of surrender look at you first (iraq, korea,somalia) and you need a coalition for fighting. Wave your white flags please,europe rules and so UK and france,we have an history unlike you. Moreover,if it wasnt for the french,you'd drinking tea before a cricket match today. The french are good soldiers and far better than the GI *****. They have good commandos groups (FFL,GIGN,RAID) unlike you. And before the D-Day who gave informations about German plans? the french resistance. And stop dreaming,you were not alone during the D-Day,there were us (brits),french,polish,canadian,australian ecc...
Also the soviets did the great job on eastern front.
Viva France,viva UK and viva Europe

Answer 5

You are such a testicle taster,Limey(I-hate-yankees). You are a prime example of why brothers and sisters shouldn't fornacate with one another. You are a waste of skin. The U.S. goes with its allies on world missions these days as so to keep you all in the fold of whats going on. I call it PC and it is going the way the UN is going. I hope we (as Americans) have learned that we dont need the EU nod when it comes to the fight on terrorism. The terrorist are eating this crap up that the EU cant and wont get together on how to battle terrorism. You a$$holes with the French Surrender Monkeys are looking to make a buck on your own countrymens blood. I dont care if this causes you mental anguish or lost sleep. If someone doesnt watch your back door...... the terrorist Boogieman will cut your throat. Then of course....you will ask where was America during this time? History does not favor the idiot or BOOBS !!

Answer 6

well said
lets put this strait for ones and for ever the French do WIN battles and wars so this stings for all these who be connoisseurs of what they think is the " real "history of french army
Here is also a little list of the battles that the French WON

http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp

Answer 7

Very nice articles one written by a French man the other a parody?
As a French person you might remember Napoleon I was a Corsican.
Yes it took American troops 4 years to beat the Army that defeated France in 7 weeks. And for America it was a 2 front war. With allies.
No one here is walking on and defacing the graves of French troops that helped save our Country. Yet, I hear it happens to American graves there. WWI was fought by American troops to save France ?

Answer 8

WWI the French did not stop Germany until the British arrived and Germany was defeated when the dough boys arrived.

WWII French fighting withdrawal helped the British retreat from Dunkirk.

Answer 9

Good history lesson.
France is a brave nation after all,at least better than the USA. What do they do for the humanity? oooh yes,invade other peasants countries then surrender. how things going in Iraq? lol

Answer 10

Tell us how wonderful you did in Viet Nam.
Since then the French has hidden under the UN flag.
Apparently there must have been a mass castration throughout France since WWII to explain the wimp attitude they have today.

Answer 11

Rule # 1 of French Military Warfare

France only wins when not led by a Frenchman.

Rule # 2

France always wins when America does most of the fighting.