But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence.
Luke 19:27
That was said by jesus.
If taken literally the bible is just as violent as the koran.
Even to the christians who don't take it literally, how do you determine what to pick and choose from the bible? Why the ten commandments and not the verse saying you should stone your children if they talk back to you?
Doesn't it go to show that morals aren't derived from the bible? That we have preconditioned morals and you pick and choose in the bible according to those, which leaves the bible unnecessary.
2007-08-31 05:37:13 · 16 answers · asked by Clint 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
(to primoa1970) I'm not quite sure how you can take mass murder out of context, but I bet it is easy to cherry pick.
Stone homosexuals/adulterers/loose women to death (Leviticus)
Eve gets labor pains for eating fruit of knowledge of good and evil (genesis)
Humanity gets wiped out by a flood (genesis)
If a father murders a daughter for sleeping with someone before marriage, can you justify it by the context? No way.
2007-08-31 05:44:53 · answer #1 · answered by Dalarus 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
That statement was part of a parable told by Jesus. A parable is a story with a moral or an "an earthly story with a heavenly meaning." Therefore it was not a command by Jesus but a quote of a person in the parable.
The Bible should be taken quite literally. All human languages have two types of speech: literal and figurative. Literal language is the type which is found in the historical books of the Bible such as Genesis and Exodus, the book of Acts, etc. Figurative language uses symbols that represent other items. Much of the book of Revelation is written figuratively.
See source below for explanation and how to study the Bible.
2007-08-31 13:45:39 · answer #2 · answered by TG 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hey I'm a Muslim.
I'd like to ask you, how much of the Qur'an have you actually read? The Qur'an is not violent and the teachings of Islam are not violent. When people take verses from the Qur'an out of context (which is happening quite often today), look at what happens! You're not looking at the context of the verses. People can turn any book into a violent book just by taking the verses out of context. People can pull out verses which make the Bible and the Torah violent books. However, in reality, they're not. It is important to know the background of that time in history.
Thank you for your time.
2007-08-31 12:58:43 · answer #3 · answered by asdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdadasdads 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
your the one picking and choosing, that verse is used way out of context. I take the Bible seriously and if your going to pick and choose verses in order to undermine people you might as well rip certain pages out of it too. That's what the Jehovah's witnesses do, you tell them a scripture they go into "their" bible and say "oh! well that's not in our Bible!" it's a lot easier to live according to something that let's you live in sin then something that shows you for what you really are.
p.s. the verse about stoning children if they disobey, that was a long time ago, our society is different, I'm not saying it would be right to stone children but today the kids think it's alright to disobey, when they read the bible and note what used to be done, it makes them want to straighten up a little bit.
2007-08-31 12:47:57 · answer #4 · answered by hollywoodcutie3 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Morals predate the bible by thousands of years. Morals were the foundation of civilization all the way back to the stone age.
2007-08-31 12:45:46 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Why do we ask these questions when we know that some uber Christian will post that we taking the word out of context and there fore right is wrong and wrong is right!
The Three, Trinity... Mainstream Religions are not afraid to make war to support their religions rights, or cover their wrongs. If a religion has to fight to make their point then it is a sad religion! You cannot force people to accept one religion unless it is by deadly force and then you only have their bodies and not their minds.
2007-08-31 13:00:38 · answer #6 · answered by humanrayc 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There are many things in the New Testament that Jesus said that immediatly overrode some things in the OT. Obviously killing our kids cuz they talk back would be going against principles that Jesus taught in the NT. But he frequently refers to the ten commandments as laws we should obey. In order to get the full concept of things we should obey, etc, you ahve to look at more than one thing. In fact, most of the New testament writings may say many things, if you are looking at one verse, and not reading the whole chapter. sometimes in my devotions i will specifically read a whole chapter to get the whole picture of what is meant to be said.....
2007-08-31 12:44:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
John 13:21
"Amen, amen, I say unto you, one of you shall betray me"
oh, and to answer the rest, deriving morals from a book needs careful study and deliberation, so after much of that, they come up with morals derived from the bible.
2007-08-31 12:44:38 · answer #8 · answered by Thanatos 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
This is a terrible attempt on the part of a non believer (I being one of them) to discredit Christianity. As JD said, Clint took it out of context.
Jesus is describing the decision of the master regarding the servant who did not invest his portion of the money wisely. The minas represent faith. He invested poorly, did not have faith.
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2007-08-31 12:50:33 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Funny how you left out the whole parable aspect. Way to take something out of context, stellar performance.
2007-08-31 13:00:40 · answer #10 · answered by sickblade 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋