What would you do if your teenage daughter was touched sexually, and talked to sexually, by an NCO in the Army and when you turned that soldier in, and he was moved into the barracks pending a full investigation, his family began mercilessly threatening and harassing your daughter. The whole post claims to NOT be able to stop a civilian from harassing/verbally attacking your kids. Is there no way to protect a victim from being further victimized? Is there any way to be able to protect yourself while your husband is deployed?
2007-08-30 19:47:49 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Military
We live on base, the family lives across the street. I have tried everything and hit a wall each time. They are lower ranking then my husband, but that doesn't seem to matter. CID, MP's, JAG, chain of command, Officers...you name it. It's a real pickle of a situation, and no one has been able to help us.
2007-08-30 20:09:12 · update #1
In my experience the Army doesn't give too much of a **** about sexual harassment. My boss sexually harassed me to the point of physical assault the whole time I was in his unit. The physical assault happened at our boozer in front of people who acted like they never saw anything.
There were other small assaults such as boob grabbing or "accidentally" touching my ****/hands but it was always in such a way that I wasn't sure if it just happened. I was told to suck it back and put up with it because he was being adminned out for doing the same things to other women. Seems he had a thing for Nurses!
The whole time I was made to feel like if I said anything it would have caused too much of a stir or ruined my career. I actually got asked if I wanted to be known as a "trouble maker" and it was even suggested at one point that it was a love affair gone sour!!!
It finally stopped (because I am deployed to Iraq) and he is on his way out, but looking back I wish I had kidney punched the ******. Sometimes the only thing people like this understand is hard justice if you get my drift. I wish I put up more of a fight or complained louder and to more people but maybe it WOULD have affected my career. Who knows.
Oh well live and learn, I think it made me tougher?
My advice to you would be to complain long and loud. This guy is way out of ******* line if your daughter isn't even in the military. Take it to the civ police.
2007-08-30 23:22:15 · answer #1 · answered by elle_williams0305 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Are these family members on base? Troublesome conduct can lead to loss of on-base housing privs. When faced with the choice of move out or control their kids things like this generally stop.
If this is happening off-post, then all those people are right -- only the soldier (who has been moved into the barracks and is under investigation) is under military control The others are civilians living in the civilian world. So your only recourse is civilian courts (ie a restraining order if you feel threatened) or civil institution (ie: at school there should be teachers moderating and stopping such behavior, else you file suit against the school district.
Good luck!
2007-08-31 03:00:42 · answer #2 · answered by SMBR 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
gunplumer gave you excelent advice. MY husband is a Military police officer and I am a navy ombudsman unfortunatly we have both seen neighbors have problems on and off base. I would be very upset too and you have a right to be. If you live on base it is the captains call, but if you live off base you will need the civilian police to be involved as well as your command. Unfortunatly sometimes commands are slow to kick people out of housing axspecialy now that it is privatized on a lot of bases. But as GP said document every thing and make reports to the MPs or civilian police. Make sure each complaint is founded and not petty. Or they will turn away from you thinking you are just being unreasonable. And what ever you do don't stoop to their level if you do the police will treat you the same as them. Though the military can be slow sometimes it is my exsperiance that they do eventualy get it right.
2007-08-31 19:13:30 · answer #3 · answered by Grace 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
On a military post, the Post or Base Commander can handle this situation. It is his post. He has final say over what goes on there. First, make an appointment with the post Sergeant Major, and request to see the post commander. I have seen problems on military posts that the MP's, civilian post police or any other DoD law enforcement would not deal with when it pertained to civilian dependents. The post commander at times have sent these people off post. I have also seen post commanders reassign people and their families at a moments notice, to get rid of them.
2007-08-31 05:38:57 · answer #4 · answered by ProLife Liberal 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Follow the excellent suggestions above and make sure to document every incident. Date, time, who, where, and what happened. Being able to give the commander or civil authorities specific details will carry far more weight than just a vague claim that 'they're harassing us'. Also, resist any impulse to respond in kind. Getting into a shouting or name-calling match just once could put you on their level in the eyes of the people you need to help you.
2007-08-31 06:17:40 · answer #5 · answered by gunplumber_462 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Heres what you do, late at night while their sleeping LOL
Seriously, they are sick. Let as many people know as possible. Have everything in writing including names and dates. Keep on it.
Go to civilian authorities(hope they're better than here.)
Get restraining order.
better yet, invite military (lots) to your bar b q, have lots of drinks for all and maybe they will open their punk mouths.
This is sick behavior.
If it doesnt work, I am availble lets see, anytime after dark.
Hang tough mam. Someone did that to my daughter, they wouldnt ever find the NCO.
2007-09-03 02:02:50 · answer #6 · answered by ? 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Try filing a formal complant with the local police department and a restraining order of some sort. The local police should be able to help you.
2007-08-31 04:41:58 · answer #7 · answered by ? 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The on base personnel do NOT have legal authority over civilians. Civilians, regardless of whether they live on, or off, base, belong to the local authorities.
2007-08-31 03:49:04 · answer #8 · answered by My world 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The "threatening" family is subject to civil laws the same as anyone else.
She can report them to the local police
2007-08-31 03:04:05 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
I feel for your daughter. Get a lawyer.
File a restraining order against the people who are threatening and harassing your daughter.
2007-08-31 02:51:07 · answer #10 · answered by PVTfuzzy 1 · 4⤊ 1⤋