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Im just curious on what proof you guys can share with me in order for me to make an educated decision.

2007-08-30 19:36:47 · 21 answers · asked by Jessica M 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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You don't believe in thousands of gods - why not? The only one you think is real is the one your parents told you was real. Coincidence?


Nobody can prove any gods, much less a specific god, exist. People believe in specific gods because of indoctrination from an early age, tradition, hallucinations, fear of torture (for gods sadistic enough to threaten it) and other similarly illogical reasons. But no gods exist in reality; these are all stories, created for people who were scared of the world long before we understood it. Now we have no more reason for these superstitions.

What's the harm in religion:
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/harm.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_religion

How harmful the bible is in particular:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
http://www.evilbible.com/

The origin of the Jesus stories:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen048.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa2.htm
http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/jesus.html

How illogical religion is in general:
http://godisimaginary.com/
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

The alternative:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/
http://www.infidels.org/
http://www.positiveatheism.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

2007-08-30 19:41:27 · answer #1 · answered by Dreamstuff Entity 6 · 11 1

(So tired of this question.)

God, as generally understood, is loving, merciful and just. But experience shows us that the most selfish people usually thrive while kind, generous people get whacked. So theists had to construct a justice system that worked OUTSIDE the observable framework of reality: heaven & hell. They didn't have anything to base it on except logic extending from what they had already assumed about "God". In the meantime, it appears that God is inclined to accept or reject prayerful intentions, regardless of their worthiness, at a ratio that borders on random. Intervention would indicate partiality, as well as destroy the need for faith, so God can't really act in the world in any significant way. Faith can be a wonderful motivation for some good work, but it all seems to depend on the believer. It isn't "God" making the difference. And a difference that makes no difference ISN'T a difference.

People who don't believe in God can't be considered rebellious because definitive proof of God is impossible. They can only be "ignorant". Can a just God punish ignorance? Particularly since his methods of operation do nothing to counteract it? Yet if he doesn't punish them, he's unfair to believers, since faith then makes no difference. The simpler answer is to assume that no God exists and get on with your life.

For many believers, the whole purpose of God is to make bad guys behave. But the bad guys don't behave anyway. Meanwhile, good guys are all strung up worrrying about whether they are doing good in a way that is pleasing to God. We ALL know, good and bad, what selfish behavior leads to. Selfless altruism is risky, but contageous when clearly modelled. God isn't required to understand the Golden Rule. And no decent "God" could punish people who figure that out on their own. So why go through the trouble when we already know the right thing to do?

2007-08-31 03:08:02 · answer #2 · answered by skepsis 7 · 2 0

There are 3 possibilities regarding God:

1) God doesn't exist. In this case, humanity would be better off trying to take care of the problems in the world ourselves instead of waiting for someone who doesn't exist to take care of them.

2) God exists and is almighty, omniscient, and benevolent. In this case, God can and does help with the problems in the world, but he would prefer for us to help out and would not have any desire to be worshiped. Prayer is useless because God already knows your intentions and that time could be better spent working to help God improve the world.

3) God exists, but is not almighty, not omniscient, and/or not benevolent. In that case, humanity would be better off working to improve the world than worshiping God because there are some things that God either cannot or will not do to help us. Worshiping such a flawed deity is a mistake.

In every case, you get the same result. Worshiping God is a waste of time that could be better utilized working to improve the world around us.

God is irrelevant.

I don't make it a point to believe in things which are irrelevant.

2007-08-31 02:54:56 · answer #3 · answered by scifiguy 6 · 1 0

Because i haven't found any evidence or proof that there is a god, and there are a lot of contradictions in the god theories. and if i believe in god just because of faith, then I'd have to believe in thousands of gods, i just can't chose a god, can i? all the religions claim their god is the true god, and none provide evidence. that's why i don't believe in god.

2007-08-31 02:47:18 · answer #4 · answered by krishnokoli 5 · 1 0

I was kind of forced to go to church when I was little. People doing Christianity talks always mentioned that God loves us unconditioningly. But it just makes me wonder though, that if God really loves us that much then, why are there things like natural disasters, unfairness and unjustice? Wouldn't God have the power to stop all that? I was told before that all these are happening because God wants to challange our faith. But, say, if you have your own kids that you love so much, would you challange the faith of your kids?

2007-08-31 02:47:59 · answer #5 · answered by viwo_2000 2 · 1 0

Let the religious folfk show you some proof, something to hold on to, something to fall back on. Isn't anything Do some reading - churches are just there to keep the uneducated in their place. They started there and regretfully it seems that it's still the same situation. People who can be led, can be misled.

2007-08-31 02:48:49 · answer #6 · answered by reme_1 7 · 1 0

The damning lack of any and all empirical data to suggest the remotest possibility that any thing even godlike might exist, let alone a god exists, suffices

2007-08-31 02:42:21 · answer #7 · answered by Socratic Pig 3 · 1 0

AAAhhh the God question.
Here is my take.
Sit quietly for ten minutes.
Focus on your breath until your mind becomes still or at least quieter.
Ask yourself is there a God? Do not look for evidence. Just look deep inside.
In my experience the fundamental idea of God was and is deep inside me.
Since practising a spiritual way of life I have come to know God based on a feeling relationship within me. This has taken a long time.
When we are sick of going without we look within.
Much love fellow seeker

2007-08-31 02:45:10 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

I'm not mad, or schizophrenic to be exact .
How can anyone believe in something that's non-existent?... and start hearing voices?? Only the mentally-ill are susceptible to that..

2007-08-31 02:46:31 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

i can't prove there's not a god. but there is no clear evidence that any such thing exists, and concepts that attempt to coherently describe such a thing appear to be designed (intelligently, perhaps!) to evade any possibility of disproof. basically the whole thing smells fishy to me.

2007-08-31 02:47:18 · answer #10 · answered by vorenhutz 7 · 2 0

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