Okay Since You Admitted It?

Question

Yesterday I asked the forum if they thought that their religious leader was infallible.
Everyone who answered said the same thing. THAT THEIR RELIGIOUS LEADER WAS HUMAN AND FALLIBLE

Here's the Questions:
1. Then why do you demand infallibility from Joseph Smith and the Current Mormon Church Leaders?

2. How do you know that the stories your religious leaders and Anti- Mormon websites have told you about Mormons are not blatant, ignorant, lies?

Answer 1

Doesn't the prophecy below bother you? A prophet from God is never wrong....this is a prophecy by Joseph Smith...

I prophecy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left for their wickedness in permitting the murder of men, women and children, and the wholesale plunder and extermination of thousands of her citizens to go unpunished (History of the Church, Vol. 5, page 394).

Joseph Smith made this prophecy in May 6, 1843. However, the United States Government did not redress any of the wrongs committed against the Mormons in Missouri, and now over 150 years later, the U.S. Government still stands.

Answer 2

1. Then why do you demand infallibility from Joseph Smith and the Current Mormon Church Leaders?

We don't. It's the anti-Mormons who expect us to believe this.

2. How do you know that the stories your religious leaders and Anti- Mormon websites have told you about Mormons are not blatant, ignorant, lies?

There is an element of truth in everything said, but just enough to make the lies palatable.

Answer 3

Seems all religious sects demand infallibility from other sects' leaders. It's sort of a finger pointing exercise. The Pope, Mohammad, Joseph Smith, Jim Baker and Tammy Baker, Jerry Falwell, and even Mother Theresa have all fallen victim to the resounding "Well they're only people after all".

Answer 4

I do not expect infallibility from Joseph Smith or the Mormon church. However my Pastor does not deliver messages and claim and angel physically gave them to him. If he did I would expect it to be perfect. Since that is what you claim and it has not proved to be true it gives your religion problems.

Also when I want to find information out about a religion my first step is to see what that religion has to say about itself. I do not take man's word for things. Even my pastor does not just take man's word. He actually does research about the various religions before he ever speaks about them.

And by the way my problems with the Mormon church stem from them adding another book in addition to the Bible. Some of your beliefs contradict the Bible. There are verses that explicitly contradict your beliefs.

Answer 5

Okay no other Religious leader ever claimed to have Golden Plates from God yet was unable to produce said plates. As for the stories about Mormon beliefs the Book of Mormon and the Doctrines and Covenants are both in my Library received from Mormon Missionaries so they are the authorized versions, and I have seen the errors myself. Further Joseph Smith claimed that he got the "gospel" from an Angel and He calls it "Another Gospel of Jesus Christ." Well that alone is enough for me...the Bible is clear on such....
2Co 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. There is no OTHER Gospel. Joseph Smith was either deceived or a Deceiver. As for which he was I do not know. But he was not a Man of God. He claimed his book was to correct errors in the Bible, but there are so many errors in the Book of Mormon and Doctrines and Covenants that they can not be relied on to correct anything. Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? God does not lie neither does His Word. And in the Word of God there are specifics for a Man of God and Joseph Smith meets not one of them.

Answer 6

1. Josheph Smith did not just claim to be a religios leader- he claimed he was a prophet. Big difference there.

2.Becasue we research what our leaders say, that's how we know they are fallible. Mormons take what thier leaders say at face value. They do not search to see if it is true, as the Berean Christians did.

Answer 7

I have never read an anti-mormon site. My research was done by reading the book of mormon and reading historical origins.

Feel good that I don't just point out mormon's errors, I mostly point out that the bible should also be pointed at since it is the origin of all these crazy religions.

Answer 8

1. They can't give you infallibility. They are just people and false prophets at that.
2. The things they talk about have source references. You can check up these things yourself.

Answer 9

No need for religious leaders to tell me that Morman belief is cartoon like ridiculous.
Not to say individual Mormans aren't sometimes jolly good people, just born at the wrong time in the wrong place.

Answer 10

I missed your question yesterday so let me answer your original question today. My religious leader is infallible. His name is Jesus Christ.