Can you realistically deport 12 million people?

Question

Like it or not the US sets the standards for many things around the world. How would the US look like before the International community if they deported 12 million people? Wouldn't our credibility and moral standing decrease. I think other people in the world would feel justified do awful things on grounds that "If the Americans did it why can't we" like deport refugees, curtail human rights and things like that. What do you think?

I think it would look like when we put all the Japanese-American and the German-American in detention camps during WWII or when the Spaniards kicked out all the Jewish. It would just not look good, we'd look like we are prosecuting people for trying to get a job. So what if the rest of the world is doing awful things... that doesn't mean we should too. We walked in Iraq, Former Yougoslavia, etc. supposedly to liberate people from opression, the US sets the standards in these things, we really have an immage to take care of. Separating families and uprooting people would not look good. The ones with criminal records, yes send back but not the ones who are good working people just because they lack papers. Some way of making them legal I think is the best way to go. After that try to keep it under control by applying or tightening the laws.

Answer 1

Actually, outside of the US the Human Rights of immigrants, legal or not, don't get a lot of respect. There are fifth generation "Guest Workers," from Korea in Japan whose ancestors have lived there continously for more than 100 years, all of them born and raised in Japan--but not allowed to become Japanese citizens. And you can only become a German citizen if your mother was German.

I'm more concerned that we'd look like a bunch of idiots if we tried. It's not like illegal aliens are green and have tentacles. They look like everybody else. Even if you just target illegal Mexicans, they look like most other Hispanics and a lot of them look like German Americans. So tracking them down is going to be a problem. Inevitably, some officials are going to get overenthusiastic and there will be Lawsuits with worldwide press coverage by native born Mexican Americans and even Puerto Ricans who will have been wrongfully deported.

And, just because we ship them back home don't mean they are going to stay there. Illegals from every nation in the world that has seaports and a few that don't, are smuggled into the US every day. Thousands more enter on Tourist Visas, get under the table jobs and drop off the radar. And the border with Mexico is just too long to guard every bit of it every day. So illegal Mexicans will be preparing for their return the minute they get off the bus in Monterray. Truth is, its like taking of shovel to the ocean--they'll flow back a lot faster than we can dig them out. It still sucks to be poor in Mexico and folks know they can do better here.

So, I don't think the World would be appalled if we tried to deport 12 million people. They'd be too busy marveling at how dumb we are.

Answer 2

Wa...wa...wa...call the wambulance.

You know how we deport 12 million ILLEGAL aliens.... one at a time. I was born here, and I am part of this country. What right does someone from another country have to expect that they can come to this country illegally and live with all the rights and benefits of a citizen. What's the point of becoming a citizen then? I have no problem with immigration, as long as it is legal. It's about time we start worrying about the problems that exist in this country and stop trying to be the moral ruler that other countries try to measure against. Deporting 12 million illegal aliens is not against any human rights. Where does is say in the human rights handbook that you can illegally enter a country and expect the country to take care of you.

I am so sick and tired of trying to save the world from people, many of whom don't like us and don't want our help. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to help, but lets get real, look around at how good of a job we've done.

Answer 3

Why not? Realistically, if our laws were enforced and the deportations began, I believe there would be a huge exodus of illegals leaving the country of their own volition. The reason they are staying today is because they believe that the U.S. Government will again give them amnesty and that the government will not enforce the laws. However, as soon as there are 10 raids per week on illegal immigrants and businesses that hire, harbor and help them and as soon as landlords are punished for renting to illegal immigrants, the exodus will begin. I am not at all concerned about how we look to the international community today because our image is pretty bad right now. We have a reputation for not enforcing our laws, for a nation of corruption and for invading soverign nations and war mongering. So, why not capitalize on that bad reputation and start to "clean house" punishing all lawbreakers, but especially getting the illegal immigrants out of the country. It's a national security issue and it's a moral and ethical issue. It appears our country is more interested in spying on law abiding citizens, passing laws regarding showing underwear and bra straps, allowing identity theft and our privacy to be not only violated but outsourced to other countries, and on and on. So, why shouldn't we get back to being a nation of laws? Why would we allow an AG whose parents are "migrant workers" translated illegal immigrants to hold the highest office in the land. There's plenty wrong here and we need to get it right. There's no time like the present.

Doesn't it bother anyone else that we seem to care more about whether Michael Vick plays football and whether animals are slaughtered due to dog fighting than we do about whether our country is invaded by illegal immigrants, or that our Congress and our President has a 70% + disapproval rating and they are not being punished or having their salaries taken away and their contracts being rehashed? Why should Michael Vick receive a harsher penalty than a Congress and a President who promote illegal immigration, who fails to promote the enforcement of laws, who refuse to do their jobs and who continue to get paid regardless of their inept actions and their unamerican actions?

Answer 4

We don't need to deport 12 million people.

We just need to secure the border so no more (illegals) can come in.

Deport Illegals that are arrested for other crimes, (just being illegal is a felony) Criminals after their prison sentences (after they get out of jail for drunk driving or whatever we would deport them).

When no more people are entering the US illegally, and the any illegals arrested are deported, The problem will work it's self out. If you are an illegal who avoids getting arrested you can stay and live out the rest of their life (but I would expect most would at some point return to their home country with all the money they made to retire because they would not be too happy living with the fear of being deported.)

Answer 5

We probably can't deport ALL 12 million illegal aliens, but we have to deport as many as possible. How would the US look before the international community if they did so? Like a country that actually enforces its immigration laws. Why don't you take a look at how immigration is handled in some of these other countries?

Answer 6

1. Screw the "international community," they don't have sovereign control of our affairs.
2. The best way to establish "credibility and moral standing" is to uphold the rule of law, rather than the unrule of idiotic compassion.
3. We have some of the most liberal immigration laws in the world, even if we actually enforce them.

Can we deport 12 MM? No. But we can "get rid" of them. If we actually enforced our (employment and other) laws, and also stopped giving welfare, free healthcare and education to illegals, they would leave over time.

Think of it this way...the crappy nations these people come from will never change if their citizens can just come here to live a better life.

Answer 7

all you would have to do is start charging people with harboring a criminal (employers, landlords, whoever) it is against the law to come here illegally therefore they are criminals. we have the laws in place they just need to be enforced our government will turn a blind eye to the matter as long as americans set on their hands and do not make it clear to them that anyone who refuses to uphold our laws and is in office will not be in office the next time we have an election. now that we are having raids illegals are getting scared and they will self deport. the one thing i would like to see that will make them run home would be a law that says that if you get caught in the U.S. illegally that whether you have family here or not that you will be barred from the U.S. forever, no work visas, no permanent status no opportunity to visit the U.S. with this they will all leave on their own it will spare us the expense of having to hunt them down and pay for their transportation to their country of origin. it can be done all 12 to 21 million of them!

Answer 8

I wish because I was counting on MY social security retirement. Maybe we should go to war right here and shoot all the illegals we let come here to begin with. The US does not set any great standards for anyone or anything. Only the rich will reap the rewards while our country will become the worlds refugees and poor.

Answer 9

Most countries already have tough immigration laws. You don't see millions of illegal immigrants flooding to their country. The USA has been far too relaxed on this issue and now needs to take a stand and stop allowing millions of people from breaking our laws. Our "credibility" and "moral" standing would not decrease at all. I think people might then show a little more respect for this country and stop walking all over us.

Answer 10

I don't want to go to the expense or confusion of deporting them. I want to force them to leave on their own by passing laws that would put anyone who hires them or rents to them or provides any service such as hospitals or schools in prison for a long time. Include the CEO of companies as well as the receptionist who accepted their application. Make it five years in general population for EACH illegal aided and no chance for early release. They would be leaving the country by the millions because no one would put their freedom on the line for illegals. I also suggest we implement an ILLEGAL TAX that would be required to be paid by any illegal who wants to leave the country, and it should be at least $1000 per person. That revenue would be used to pay informers who turned in those who are aiding illegals.
See it all works out and costs little or nothing.