More proof the global warming tards are liars, wanna see?

Question

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=b35c36a3-802a-23ad-46ec-6880767e7966

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SURVEY: LESS THAN HALF OF ALL PUBLISHED SCIENTISTS ENDORSE GLOBAL WARMING THEORY; COMPREHENSIVE SURVEY OF PUBLISHED CLIMATE RESEARCH REVEALS CHANGING VIEWPOINTS

Michael Asher
August 29, 2007 11:07 AM
In 2004, history professor Naomi Oreskes performed a survey of research papers on climate change. Examining peer-reviewed papers published on the ISI Web of Science database from 1993 to 2003, she found a majority supported the "consensus view," defined as humans were having at least some effect on global climate change. Oreskes' work has been repeatedly cited, but as some of its data is now nearly 15 years old, its conclusions are becoming somewhat dated.

Medical researcher Dr. Klaus-Martin Schulte recently updated this research. Using the same database and search terms as Oreskes, he examined all papers published from 2004 to February 2007. T

I can't believe someone cannot tell the differencebetween a oil company blog and the U.S. Senate. I just lowered the estimate of IQ for GW believers from 65 to 60

Answer 1

*gasp* But Algore said there is a consensus! So it must be true! Next thing you will be telling me is that he didn't really invent the internet.

Answer 2

Well I, unlike you, had the intelligence to note that 7% + 45% + 48% + 6% = 106%.

The intelligentsia who failed to note that fact are:
1. Arbeit Macht Frei;
2. Matthew Dempsey, a James Inhofe staffer;
3. Michael Asher, right-wing blogger;
4. Klaus-Martin Schulte, the paper's author;
5. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, the journal’s editor;
and
6. the anonymous peer-reviewers of the paper.

Answer 3

In case someone has not been informed of the truth about global warming, AlGore, and the AGW "scientists".....


1. Science is not a consensus activity
2. _All_ scientists do NOT agree
3. Even the socialistic EU "scientists" are
backpedalling on their GW stance
4. Global warming, like global cooling is part of the
natural climatic cycle.
5. There have been many such cycles in Earth's
history.
6. Earth is presently in the last stages of an ice
age and was considerably warmer for most of its
history.
7. Floating ice occupies the same volume as would the
liquid water that comprises it.
8. Even if the ocean levels rise the alarmist 28
feet, just move away from the beach.
9. Warmer climate means more crop growing area.
10. Water is not going anywhere. Except for what we
have shot into space with rockets, there is the same
amount as there always was.

Here is truth about global warming:

Global warming is one-half of the climatic cycle of warming and cooling.
The earth's mean temperature cycles around the freezing point of water.
This is a completely natural phenomenon which has been going on since there has been water on this planet. It is driven by the sun.
Our planet is currently emerging from a 'mini ice age', so is
becoming warmer and may return to the point at which Greenland is again usable as farmland (as it has been in recorded history).
As the polar ice caps decrease, the amount of fresh water mixing with oceanic water will slow and perhaps stop the thermohaline cycle (the oceanic heat 'conveyor' which, among other things, keeps the U.S. east coast warm).
When this cycle slows/stops, the planet will cool again and begin to enter another ice age.

It's been happening for millions of years.

The worrisome and brutal predictions of drastic climate effects are based on computer models, NOT CLIMATE HISTORY.
As you probably know, computer models are not the most reliable of sources, especially when used to 'predict' chaotic systems such as weather.

Global warming/cooling, AKA 'climate change':
Humans did not cause it.
Humans cannot stop it.

BTW, that's a great nick. It took me a while to translate it but it's a good one

Answer 4

Is it really necessary (or mature) to refer to people as tards (does anyone older than high school still use this as an insult) and liars because they don't agree with you?
I did notice that the person in question looked at material from 1993 through 2003 so some of it was dated. I thought the latest major research on Global Warming was in 2005.
I also agree with the previous poster...since when are scientific facts open for debate?

Answer 5

Cosmo makes a good point.

The name that you use "Arbeit Macht Frei" was the inscription over the entrance to the Auschwitz Nazi concentration camp of World War II.

The fact that you would choose a name like that indicates to me that you are a Nazi sympathizer or see yourself as a Nazi.

That fact alone destroys your credibility with me and many other people.

Answer 6

You've gone on and on about "hard facts" but simply say "they disproved this" and don't offer anything beyond "trust me, it's not true." Here's some hard facts.

1. I get a lot of "earth is not a closed system" arguments when I tread on evolutionary arguments. We receive energy from the sun.

2. Global temperature has risen on every planet in our solar system.

3. (Logical Conclusion) The earths temperature is rising because the sun's temperature is rising. The sun goes through cycles like every other star in the universe.

4. There was an ice-age.

5. It ended.

6. My SUV wasn't even built yet.

Answer 7

Tomcat, is that really all there is to the 70's "global cooling scare" that I am always hearing about? That one little crummy page long article that quotes like half a dozen people, most of whom are merely reporting what they have observed and not actually predicting anything? Anybody comparing that to the current situation with global warming truly has no shame.

Answer 8

It isn't really lying. What is being used is carefully picked research. It is like the statement that 9 out of 10 dentists recommend a certain toothpaste. To make this true, all that is required is 9 dentists that recommend the toothpaste and 1 that does not. Most "researchers " could find the required numbers in any major city.

Answer 9

Mr Jello is FUNNY! Science has ALWAYS been a popularity contest. Remember when everybody 'knew' the world was flat? Or when everyone 'knew' that continents didn't drift? Or when everyone 'knew' that you'd suffocate at any speed above 25mph? Those were ALL scientific positions at one time or another!

Answer 10

Just more nonsense by the Senator from Big Oil.

Here's the truth. The "skeptics" are few in numbers, if noisy. EVERY major scientific organization, including the official National Academy of Sciences says global warming is real and mostly caused by us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

Even the article you cite says only 32 papers of 528 were skeptical, by the author's skeptical claim.

The bottom line:

"The fact that the community overwhelmingly supports the consensus is evidenced by picking up any copy of Journal of Climate or similar, any scientific program at the meetings, or simply going to talk to scientists. I challenge you, if you think there is some un-reported division, show me the hundreds of abstracts that support your view - you won't be able to. You can argue whether the consensus is correct, or what it really implies, but you can't credibly argue it doesn't exist."

Dr. James Baker - NOAA

The vast majority of scientists know that global warming is real and mostly caused by us. You can claim it's all a giant conspiracy, as ridiculous as that is. You can claim it's all because of Al Gore, which is even more absurd. But you can't credibly argue the scientific consensus doesn't exist.

Answer 11

Did the Byzantines finally reach consensus over the gender of angels or did they disappear before that ?