Atheists guess what?

Question

I got to thinking about something, and came to the realization that even though proof is not needed to claim something doesn't exist. The claims within that need proof.

If you are going to make the claim that "God does not exist is a fact" the burden of showing me every test ever done, every artifact ever found, every book ever written, and every piece of conceivable evidence is verifiable as false rests with you, and until you can do that the correct position for any TRUE logical thinking is that WE DO NOT KNOW whether or not God exsists.

[Example] the bible is false, well prove it there are inaccuracies, but there are also very precise and detailed of events that HAVE been verified to be true also

Answer 1

Read "Age of Reason" for starters. It was written by Thomas Paine, one of our country's founding fathers.

That there is NO PROOF that God exists is the foundation of my belief. Try proving that. I don't have to, I don't believe in him, you do.

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Answer 2

Where's your proof.

The proof of something rests with the claimant. As a skeptic I do not say "God does not exist is a fact." I say that there is no proof for the existence of god and I am waiting for you to show me that proof. There is ample proof that the bible has been compiled, edited, rewritten, altered, translated, and the stories it contains twisted for whatever reason the twisters want.

So the bottom line is, your logic is flawed. I don't claim anything other than the only things that are real are those that have concrete, verifiable, and testable proof.

Answer 3

I'm not an atheists, but where from the did the first 12 books of the bible come from (answer: the Torah) and do you know how many stories that book has in it? Do you agree with the fact that when the bible (old testament) was written 12 stories were choosen out of thousands? And who chose these stories? Not God..Man did. And the "new testatment" was written by man also. All the bible is suppossed to be is a guideline to living your life. A book of fables, with morals and teachings. Nothing more.

Answer 4

I do not need to prove that Santa Claus does not exist.

It is highly unlikely that he does, due to the facts which disprove his existence.

I do not claim to have ultimate knowledge of the universe, and that therefore I know for an absolute fact that Santa does not exist.

However, it is a safe assumption to make that he does not.

The same goes for god. The facts simply do not support the existence of such a creature. And no matter how much you WANT to believe in such a creature, you cannot escape the facts.

I WANT to believe there's a Santa Claus. But that doesn't make him real.

Answer 5

Nothing in the bible that has been independently proven to be true involves Jesus or god.

Regardless, you will find very few atheists who say that it is a proven fact that god does not exist. What the vast majority of us say is that there is no evidence at all to prove that god does exist, and there is no logical reason to believe that god does exist.

So yes, you are correct in saying that we do not know whether or not god exists. What we do know is that there is nothing to indicate that god exists.

Answer 6

I'm not trying to prove God doesn't exist. And you're right, I can't know. Still, I don't believe, I was basically raised an atheist, though I have no desire to prove there is no God, argue about God, hate you because your beliefs are different than mine... and i could care less about science, i like philosophy... I'm more of the atheist hippi type ( :

Answer 7

If you are surrounded by people convinced that Leprechauns exist and are one day going to rule the world. Is it up to you to prove that they do not exist?

Is the burden of non proof on your shoulders?

Would you spend the time trying to gather every spec of evidence that fails to show evidence of their existence, so that you can convince them that they are delusional?

Or would you ask them for some proof, seeing as they are making the claim, and are trying to change your behavior and belief with those claims?

The burden of proof, still lies with you my friend.

Answer 8

For the gazillionth time, science doesn't deal in absolute facts, just probabilities. I know science minded people throw the word "fact" around in everyday discussion as a convenience, but science doesn't actually accept anything as absolute fact because to believe that something is 100% fact would require the ability to accurately discern the future and science doesn't claim to be able to do that. Religion claims to be able to do that.

Answer 9

The burden of proof rests on the person making the positive statement.

YOU are the one claiming there's an invisible, intangible being existing "outside of time and space" (whatever that means) who created the universe and controls everything in it, yet cannot be detected or measured by any known, scientific means.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and you have NONE.

Just because we don't know the "why" behind a particular phenomenon YET, there's no reason to throw up our hands and brag about our ignorance by shouting "GodDidIt!"

Answer 10

Prove that the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not exist. As you can't by your definition I (and everyone for that matter) should believe in Him. After all the burden of proof is on you to prove that He does not exist.

Answer 11

Ah, but it is more complex than that. You don't believe in Zeus because, well, you don't. Even if - rationally- you know you can't prove he doesn't exist, you know some of the myths might be true, yet you don't believe in him.

That's where I am coming from. Rationally, I know that I don't know. Other than that, I am convinced there is no god. Just because (and some more, but too much to put it on here and now)