If I put gun to your head but don't shoot, did I save your life?

Question

Isn't this what the christians believe? They think their god created sin, put that tree in the garden for adam and eve, and insists they love him. But they call it "saving" when he then doesn't punish you for things he created? I can not make sense of it. Can some one explain what makes them think not torturing a person is the same as saving?

Answer 1

Yahoo! Answers Violation!!!!!!! There is an unwritten law that you are not allowed to use such things as "Logic", "Common Sense".... you are therefore banished to the corner for a time-out until you learn to play nice.

I can't make sense of it either. Like the parent that places a candy bar on the table and tells an "innocent"/naive child of 2 yrs that they aren't allowed to have it... then leaves the room KNOWING the child will take the candy.... and then torturing the child for doing it!!!!!!! *Sigh*

Answer 2

what crack smoking christian told u that?lol.
If a repeated killer cant quit killing,,,Id rather loose one evil life than two innocents.
Tempatation created sin,,Christans follow the holy bible,(beleive jesus is gods son),in the begining eve was talked into doing wrong,(by the serpant),and she talked adam into it,,,
God questioned Adam and adam lied to God.and yes then they were punished.
They were banned from the garden.When God ask adam ,,he lied,,so he did a double wammy.
It seemed the start of the curse for man kind,,banned from their home,allowed to become sick,get old and die,(while in the garden they did not get sick,nor die)
Of course Christans and other reglious beleifs differ from place to place,,
Myself,,my personal beleif is,regardless of what church or religous back ground u r
from,show others respect and u get it in return,every one has a bad day,that i can overlook.But some one who will endanger a child or father etc.It seems to be a sickness that should be cured..my opion..
And what if the gun went off by accident?
did u save my life by getting me out of a world with so much hate?
Or did u endanger my life which could cause my death because u wanted to be sum control freak who had a mental problem,which allowed u to think by endangering innocent peoples lives in situations that could be fatal,but changing ur mind at the last minute not to take that life
makes u feel like a hero?Like ur saving lives.
u dont have to kill some one to take their life,u can make it living hell and it wouldnt seem fit to be called a life,,if u cant enjoy living,a part of u is already dead.
So 2 answer all ur questions,
1- no u didnt save my life,u tormented it caused years of therphy..
2- dont know what kind of weird christians u spoke to,,(dont go 2 that church if they invite u)
3- God didnt create sin,,man did.(its called free will,yea,it suxs at times)
4- he did punish adam and eve,when jesus died,he said lord forgive them for they do not know-(sumthing close 2 dat)-earth shook,crack temples,sky rumbled loudly,,God was about to put da smackdown on some one.
5- not torturing someone as the same as saving??-dont beleive in torturing people,2 cruel.
Hope that answered sum ur questions.Of course thats my opions and others will have theirs.
Take care.

Answer 3

I find it amusing that people can insist that God created everything...except those things they find distasteful. How can God be omniscient--all-knowing--and yet not know Adam would partake of the forbidden fruit? Oh, and by the way, God created Satan, and God created Hell. Satan--formerly known as Lucifer, the Light-Bringer (Light-Bearer?), was an angel before he was cast down. Do the angels predate God? If you accept the argument that God created the angels, then you must accept that God created Lucifer. If you accept that all things are of God's making, then you must accept that God created Hell as a place to cast Lucifer down into. If God is omniscient, then He must have known that Lucifer would turn against Him. These are the prickly issues that Christians prefer not to have to think about.

Apologies, by the way, to the OP...I didn't exactly answer your question. It's possible, however, that I may have illuminated it some.

Answer 4

First let us deal with your first statement. If you do not pull the trigger you spared my life.

What God did at the beginning was different. He created us to have a relationship with him and to enjoy his creation. But, he did not wish to make us robots so we have free will, the right to choose. He also placed in the Garden a tree and told them not to eat of it. They chose to disobey God. Who knows what would have happened it Adam and Eve had not succumb to the temptation. Hell is the absence of God which is what you are choosing when you do not want to obey his commandments.

Answer 5

No because I didn't need saving before you put the gun to my head. Is that how the god works? First He threatens you with eternal annihilation, then you have to beg the god to be saved from the god?

Answer 6

I am a Christian, but I dont believe what you wrote at the beginning of your question..... if I did put a gun to your head and not shoot, then what I did was made a choice.. thats what GOD gives us... a choice to do right or wrong... the tree in the Garden of Eden was put there and not to tempt Adam and Eve, but it was there, and Adam and Eve were told NOT to eat of the fruit... but Eve did... and was tricked, and then Adam ate at Eve's suggestion. ........ Grace is what Jesus gave to us when he died for our sins.... Grace is what you get when you dont deserve it... Mercy is when you DONT get what you do deserve!!!! Those two things are what God gave us thru the sacrifice of his Son Jesus!! God Bless YOU!

Answer 7

The christian religion is not a religon of love, but of fear, hate and control. Read leviticus in the old testament, or count how many people god killed.

I think the devil reworked their book so it make himself seem the almight god of love the say god is

Answer 8

God did not create sin...satan did...God ordered Adam and Eve not to eat of that tree...but, satan tempted eve, and basically that introduced sin into the world.

I would pull that gun out of your hands so fast, and shoot you in both knee caps...would you need knee replacement?

get my point?

Answer 9

God wasn't torturing them... he was punishing them! Because he told them not to eat the apples... but the devil blind sighted them from God (like he does with people these days too) and made them eat an apple from the tree! It was their own fault! Jus tlike when someone does a crime! The law says not to, and if they brake that law they get punished for what THEY did! soo if you put a gun to someones head but don't shoot.. your not saving their lives.

Answer 10

No, you didn't. If I had asked for you to pull the trigger and you refrained, then that would be saving my life.

Man chose to sin. And that choice refers to me asking you to pull. And the fact that the Lord put our punishment on his son refers to you not pulling the trigger (after I asked).

But you can't even compare pointing a gun to the book of Genesis.