Do you think this was some excellence wisdom from what a 19yr old christian homosexual had to say?

Question

I know we go on and on about this subject but if I could share something personal on what my 19 yr old step son taught me recently, as we are both christians and have had some heartfelt discussions on GOD, SIN and Homosexuality..

I asked him if he felt he was born to be a homosexual? he said no I was born to be a man to grow into a decent human being to serve GOD and I just happen to be attracted to my own sex which is just one small part of who I am
I asked:
Do you believe homosexual acts are sinful according to our faith?
He said Yes I do,(God only blesses man and woman in Holy Sacrament) but he said just like you: We wake up in the morning and do not intentionally plan to do things that are agaisnt GOD but we do..WHY? because you like me are sinners and your sins are no less or greater than mine, as we are both christians saved by GRACE not by works.
What do you think?

Answer 1

I think that wonderful step-son of yours has learned more about the nature of god in 19 years than many of your fellow christians have in their lifetimes, and I'm glad he shared that with you. You wouldn't accept that answer from me (an atheist heterosexual) but you accept it from him because you haven't hardened your heart to him. There's a lot of love and a lot of knowledge out there in the world, this should show you that you shouldn't shut your mind to it just because of a few differences.

Answer 2

I thought tolerance was the way of life, but we are not seeing it here are we, must be a double standard

miss,
you are taking a horrible beating over this. Your son is correct about many things and you should be glad that his eyes are open. Wisdom beyond his years, perhaps, I don't know.

Sin in our flesh is both a mystery and foredrawn conclusion. The bible teaches we are incarcerated in a body of sin. Your son understands that. It is not any different to those who drink too much or do something else.

David prayed about the 3 types of sin in his life, commission, omission and sinning in ignorance of the commandment. I was impressed by what your son said, and also that you took time to write it.

everyone, including those who are condemning you struggle with something. The words of your son may help them to win the fight they are in.

Faith is foolishness to them that are perishing and you need not think that the ones saying such horrible things represent the many that will read and be touched by what you write.

We live in an evil age, and all we can do is be a light to the faithfulness of Jesus to save all who come to him in faith.

Answer 3

Not just because of the fall of mankind, but because of sin that entered into the world at the fall, which affected nature... do confusing or wrong things happen to us (even from the time people are born). The potential for doing wrong and wrong things happening to us are always there. (That is why Jesus came to set us free) These things do not mean we should think of ourselves as unrighteous and sinners, it means that we live in a fallen world and that harmful things will come. We are to think of ourselves as saints saved from guilt and sin by His grace. When we come to recognize the inconsistancy between God and ourselves and recieve Christ, that is what we are... SAINTS and no longer sinners, because our desire is now to love God and be one with Him, even if we do not do it perfectly.... (YET).

We are not to continue in that which is contrary to God's ideals for us, but we are to be understanding of eachother in the midst of the struggles we face in this fallen world. I do not think your stepson is a sinner because he is a homosexual. Engaging in homosexual acts may be considered to be a sin, because it is an act contrary to God's perfect ideals and has great potential for harm (especially in this society) although I myself withhold judgement because of Christ, as I believe everyone should.

Answer 4

I think he's a pretty awesome person and wise beyond his years.
It is really easy to judge a group of people (who are gay, who are living together, who are whatever) who are "sinning" when you don't know one personally in that group. I was taught homosexuality was wrong, believed it, accepted it, etc... then I met my boss.
He grew up the nephew of a baptist preacher, was taught everything Christian from day 1. He had a good relationship with his father (often a cause they say - bad relationship with parent of same sex), he had brothers, he had a very normal life. Okay - I got to know him. There was nothing about him that was hateful, mean-spirited, unkind, etc... He is in fact one of the most sensitive, compassionate and generous people I know - hands down he puts most Christians to shame if they were to be weighed and measured next to this man and his heart of gold.
We started talking about what we believed when we were closing our store one night at the mall. He told me what he believed, I agreed, it was all the same as my own beliefs. He asked about how I felt about homosexuals. I said I wasn't sure - I'm taught it's a sin, the Bible says so, but I also know we are ALL sinners. Not one of us is innocent. He said, "Okay, So here's my thing - if this was a choice that I made, WHY would I CHOOSE such a difficult life? Wouldn't it make a lot more sense for everyone to choose to be straight? It's sure a lot easier - no one is tortured, beaten, threatened, treated like an outcast, etc.. for being attracted to the opposite sex." No kidding! How could I argue that? There is no arguement. I decided from that day on - it isn't up to me. It's up to God. I am not responsible for deciding what is in someone else's heart - I am not responsible for their choices and I am not responsible for saving them. God is, they are. My only job in this world is to be a light, Keep walking the walk, raise my family and love others as I would want them to love me.
I hope your step son finds his path early in life and is blessed beyond measure with every step he takes! I think he's AWESOME and I'm happy to be his sister in Christ!

Answer 5

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY?
Rom. 1:24-27 " God , in keeping with the desires of the hearts, gave them up to uncleanness, that their bodies might be dishonored among them...God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature; and like wise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full recompense, which was due for their error."

I believe that what is said in the Bible is more important than any human opinion, because it gives us the thoughts of mankind's creator. (cor. 6:9-11) you will notice that some of these who became Christians were formerly practicing homosexuality. But because of their love for God, and with the help of his spirit, they changed.

Answer 6

I would agree with him.

I am a flaming heterosexual and every day I struggle to control the lust I feel toward women. I do this (or not do this as the case may be) because I am trying to live a life dedicated to God who said that my desire should be only for my wife. It is not easy, and lustful thoughts are a constant problem, but I have a choice to give into them or not. That is the burden I bare, not much different from the burden a homosexual has, just oriented in a different direction.

Answer 7

He says that, but he intentionally goes against what the bible teaches us about homosexuality. When his day comes. What does he say? I know you said i will be cast in the lake of fire, but I couldn't help it. The question to him is. Does he think God will go against his own word, because If he did than he would fail to be God right? I think what he's doing is convincing himself that his preference is okay. Thats not true.

Answer 8

um, not a good theory, adult men are out for one factor purely... i understand by way of fact i'm married to a minimum of one... sorry, i admire him dearly yet he has it on his innovations consistently and that i don't understand many adult men that don't... his intentions would look good yet beware, in case you desire to stay a virgin you will extra advantageous enable this guy understand that and spot what his reaction is, optimistically it will be good. You in no way understand, I in basic terms situation provided that there are one in all those super form of weirdos obtainable. in case you do not desire to stay one, its as much as you if this guy is "the single". the percentages are against your relationship with the super age distinction yet stranger issues have handed off and ended up understanding. good success with even if happens, be cautious and be secure!!

Answer 9

Yes...but when I wake up in the morning, I intentionally pray to God to keep me from sin.
And when I do intentionally sin, I immediately ask forgiveness. I also ask for help to overcome the urge to do that sin again.

There is no way I could meet a lover, go somewhere private, take my clothes off, lay down, and engage in sexual activity by accident, now is there? If I do these things, I obviously intended to do them.
I might be attracted to someone...it's quite likely, actually.
I might even look him up and down and think "boy, I'd really like to snuggle up close with him!"
When that happens (and it does happen), it takes alot of will power to turn and walk away...but, because I am determined that I will stay in God's will for me, I DO turn and walk away.
I think your stepson also realizes that, for him to meet a lover, go somewhere private, take his clothes off, lay down, and engage in sex with him, takes an intentional act of will on his part. He doesn't have homosexual sex by accident, it is intentional.
I think he needs to find the power he needs to turn and walk away from temptation.
I think he can only find that power if he makes up his mind that he will not give in to his sin, that he will stay in God's will for him.
He needs to pray...and you also need to pray for him.
It isn't easy to give up our favorite sins...it can be done, but we need God's help.

NOTE: My oldest son is fighting a battle with alcohol...he, also, must make up his mind that he will stay in God's will, and he, also, must pray daily for strength.
Homosexuals are not the only people who must face temptation every day of their lives. Every single human being who has ever lived has been born with a tendency to sin. As your stepson says, one sin is no less than any other sin...but God can help with all sin, if we only ask him to. Saying we are all sinners is nothing but a cop-out. It is the coward's way out of trying to overcome our sin....
It sounds good to us, because we like our sins...but God is not mocked.

Answer 10

I think he has been blessed with much wisdom, and a good mother to guide him. God bless you both.

I also think it's sad and irrelevant that so many people who don't even believe in God feel the need to comment on something they don't understand. But I guess they can't help themselves. Your 19-year-old actually is much smarter and wiser than those who left unfriendly/uninformed comments.

Answer 11

If he prays Jesus can help him change.
I pray Jesus will show the wisdom and the ability to be released from the sin of homosexuality.