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Jeremiah 7:29b, 30a,31 "God has rejected and will desert the generation with which he is furious. 'For the sons of Judah have done what is bad in my eyes', [...]And they have built the high places of To'pheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hin'nom, in order to gurn their sons and daughters in the fire, A THING THAT I HAD NOT COMMANDED AND THAT HAD NOT COME UP INTO MY HEART"

why would God do this on a much bigger scale with the vast majority of the human race? isn't that completely ILLOGICAL???

2007-08-29 05:45:49 · 25 answers · asked by yvettexas007 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Then the believers of a fiery burning hell are not considered logical by most. After all, Eccles.9:5,10 also shows the dead can't feel pain or pleasure or know what is going on around them. So what value is it to torture them? In fact, how could anyone do it?

Jesus knew the deads' condition. So why did he compare it to being asleep?

See. Logic has never been much of a requirement for superstition. It is for true Christians, however.

2007-08-29 06:06:52 · answer #1 · answered by grnlow 7 · 0 1

God would do this, because as he made man he can also destroy man. However he isn't really interested in destroying man. You have to go back to Genesis to understand this. In the beginning God wanted more than anything to have a relationship with man. That is why he created man. Most people though have rejected God's invitation to be friends. There must be a consequence for this. God is a god of Justice. He has decided that rejecting him is the worst thing anyone could ever do and that is why the punishment is more horrible than you can imagine. Jeremiah is one of the Jewish prophets. If you read more in Jeremiah and Lamentations you will see a lot of predictions of bad things happening to the Jews. Many of them have already happened, but the things that haven't yet happened will happen to the world not just the Jews. The Jews were God's chosen people and they still think they are. But God, since the Jews mostly rejected him, justfully and mercifully gave everyone in the world a chance to escape destruction. Can you now see God as more humanistic rather than vengeful?

2007-08-29 13:09:20 · answer #2 · answered by Susas 6 · 0 0

Due to Judah's persistent refusal to recieve correction, Jeremiah was to lament. They polluted the temple by offering of human sacrifices. They would be overtaken by a terrible slaughter and the land left desolate. Unlike those who fall into sin and repent Judah did not. The people thought that they were wise when it came to the law of the Lord even though the priest,scibes and prophets had misinterpreted and rejected it. Because they were deceitful, shameless, covetous they would share in the coming time of punishment.When God sweeps them away like a fully picked vine of fig tree. As the Babylonian army advances like vipers which cannot be charmed.
The people wondered where God was. God asked them why they had forsaken Him for images and foreign idols.
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Note-these people during this time were under the old laws that were set in place by God. When Jesus came to become a living sacrifice for our sins and those who repent of them and accept Him and the Father would be under the New Testament Law of Grace. We are saved by Grace.
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God has warned us that He is a jealous God ...and no other god is worthy of His creations praises. He is our creator and designer of the universe and everything thing in it. To challenge God Almighty and hand over His right to be worshiped and loved to a false god or idol that is not worthy and is worth nothing ..is not wise.
When God says enough is enough..then all will see His Glory.

2007-08-29 13:30:11 · answer #3 · answered by Stormchaser 5 · 0 0

Sometimes I try to understand the Christian concept of hellfire by imagining the worst possible person on earth who EVERYONE would agree deserves SEVERE punishment going there.

So let's say, hell is real and Hitler for instance, is sent there.

So he gets tormented and tortured for 1000 years. That's more torment than he gave all the millions of victims of the holocaust and their families down ten generations. Shouldn't SOME form of realisation and regret for wrongdoing happen by then? Okay, so he gets tormented and tortured for another 1000 years. What does that accomplish exactly? What is the point of it?

If I, a human can envision the worst person on earth arriving at SOME state of regret and soul purging and worthiness of soul growth. If I, a mere human can imagine feeling sorry and mercy for someone like Hitler after he undergoes what he SHOULD undergo, a punishment EQUAL to his crime. How come a Higher Deity is incapable of such love and mercy?

Why should I worship a Diety less humane and merciful than I am?

2007-08-29 12:56:17 · answer #4 · answered by pixie_pagan 4 · 0 2

What is illogical is man refusing to obey God thinking that he (man) knows best for him and not for God doing what seems right in his own eyes.

2Pe 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

2Pe 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam [the son] of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;


2Pe 2:16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb *** speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.


2Pe 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.


2Pe 2:18 ¶ For when they speak great swelling [words] of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, [through much] wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error

2007-08-29 13:09:45 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think the the concept of God is illogical, which makes the bible you quote illogical and any punishment handed out by God to be illogical as well.

Even if, for the sake of argument, I assume that God is real and did inspire the Bible, I think that sending people to hell makes God cruel and sadistic, which are not qualities worthy of worship.

2007-08-29 12:53:47 · answer #6 · answered by Subconsciousless 7 · 0 2

Is it logical to just throw everyone into Heaven even though most people HATE God? Or is it more reasonable to give them what they want... eternity without having to exist with Him? If you don't like God, why would you want to live with Him???

2007-08-29 12:57:49 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

When God consumes the evil in flames; it will be
for just cause and clean and quick "Not sport" He
says the wicked shall be destroyed by the "glory of
His coming" The truly evil after judgement who share
in the lake of fire will burn up quickly. He's not into
torture. Their smoke ascends for miles and they will
be brought no more to memory.

2007-08-29 12:59:57 · answer #8 · answered by yhvh_on_line 2 · 0 1

Hell is an English word meaning (a hole in the ground 'grave').
W are all going to hell(grave) when we die. Jesus spend three days and three night in hell(grave),and He was risen from the grave.
Hades is the 'ever lasting fire'. the only one that will be thrown into this fire are those that sin and would not repent.
The wages of sin is death.

2007-08-29 13:03:53 · answer #9 · answered by Herb E 4 · 0 1

We're in hell. Look around. Murders to no end., rape, theft, possessions of demons (the ones who have 'em can describe 'em clearly).
THis is the highest realm of many low realms. We are the ones who were lost when lucifer and his cohorts "fell to the earth" or the outer darkness (what does the night look like to you? Think Heaven has darkness?) Christ returned to Paradise where Adam and Eve and all their followers (us) had fallen from with lucifer to the Earth. It says all this in the Bible - and I'm not kidding. Christ came to save the lost, who abandoned Him for lucifer. Which is why it is so important to ask Christ for forgiveness and to return to our old Home in Heaven, where we fell from..... says it in the Bible. (But too many gregarious teachers don't interprete it literally anymore)

2007-08-29 12:57:30 · answer #10 · answered by 98765 3 · 1 2

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