Original Sin --?

Question

Ezekiel 18:20 "The person who sins shall die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself. "

Where does Original sin come from , whereas it is clearly stated in ezekiel that the person who sins shall die, and his sin is on him , he's responsible for his sin, not anyone else.So ...

How do you justify "ORIGINAL SIN" in coherrence with this verse?

Answer 1

The Ezekiel passage is not untrue. Original sin doesn't exactly mean that we are guilty because of the exact sin of Adam it means that our nature has been tainted and our predisposition is now turned away from an ability to do spiritual good. This does not mean that we can't do "good" acts toward one another, but we cannot do selflessly good acts that God considers good. This idea comes from Romans 5:12-21. Again the person who sins will die, but in a sense they are already dead from the start. They lack the ability to function from a place of neutrality as Adam did. This is what original sin means. I'm not trying to convince anyone here just explain the context.

Oh and for those who are Christians, and who have difficulty with this idea. Here's one thing to keep in mind if one man's sin could not infect a multitude than the righteous acts of one man could not be imputed to a multitude. If it is our own sins alone that we are responsible for, then it follows that it would be our own works that redeem us--and the Bible teaches neither of those ideas. Read the Romans passage and see how Paul deals with the concepts of the first and second Adam.

Just something to think about.

Answer 2

That depicts personal sin.. and not original sin... Personal sins of the father is not transferable to the son.

The term 'original sin' is not even in the Bible. It was just implied to mankind as not having favor in the sight of God because of sins.

Rom 3:10 as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one;
Rom 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;

Answer 3

I'm not exactly sure of the perspective of your question, but according to the Scriptures, sin originated in, "The Serpent, Satan, the Dragon called the Devil (all names refer to the same person). (Rev. 12:7-9) Addressing the Devil (Lucifer), God called him "the anointed cherub" (a member of the angelic group, cherubim) Ezek. 28:14 who was "perfect in his ways - till iniquity was found in thee." (Ezek. 28-15). Thus sin originated in an exalted angel (cherub) called Lucifer. (Isa 14:12-14) As one reads the account of God casting Lucifer out of heaven (read Isa. 14:12-14) we are persuaded that sin originated before man was created on earth. Of course, we are well aware of sin's entrance into the human race through disobedience and defiance of God as is clearly stated in Rom 5:12.

Answer 4

Original Sin is doctrine taught by Christianity. It is interpretive concept. The Bible is replete with directly conflicting text such as the one you have pointed out. I'm with you. Ezekiel has it right. We are not victims of anyone else's sin.

Answer 5

Well just on a basic ethical level it seems unfair.

Imagine if I kill someone and in a court of law the judge says that not only I have to get the death penalty but my children, their children and their children after as well.

It is unjust, even a child can see that.

Answer 6

Hurray, another biblical hypocricy to file away for future reference. Hm, I really should read the bible again some time. Refresh my memory.

By the way, though, your little verse talks about father and son, not about the 'claw of the devil' that is Woman. They take everything else literaly, so why not this?

Answer 7

the verses do harmonize, we are all born in sin:

"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies." - Psalm 58:3.

however, what the inspired prophet Ezekiel speaks of is say I commit a murder or one of my parents commit a robbery, they would not be responsible for my henious actions even though they bore me, likewise i would not be responsible for their sins, even though I am their son and the DNA is a match.

Answer 8

We're on our way to Okinawa, when we got word that the atom bomb dropped. I thought it was Adam, A-D-A-M. Somebody dropped an Adam bomb. What kinda bomb is that? They said it wiped out a city. I said, "This son of a ***** of an Adam, who the hell is he?"
Well, I know who he is—he's our common ancestor, the primordial man of Eden, who transgressed the bounds set by God and brought us to grief. That Adam, the emblem of original sin. The maker of the Adam bomb.
Now, the old primer rhyme tells us, "In Adam's Fall/We sinned all." I accept that. But the idea of original sin depicts us as guilty for something we didn't do. It is our remote forebear's crime—not ours—but still we suffer for it, inheriting his fault like a genetic defect. That would be simply unjust, and I don't buy the idea.
I say that when the Bible talks about what Adam did, it's talking about what we ourselves did. We were there "in the beginning" ourselves, because, being God's offspring and made in His image, we are not material beings but spiritual beings. So we're eternal. That's the very nature of spirit: it never comes into being; it never goes out of being. That's why in the Bhagavad-gétä the soul is described not only as ajaù, "unborn," and nityaù, "eternal," but also as puräëaù, the oldest.
This means that all of us are primordial persons. When the Bible talks about Adam, then, it's actually talking about us. As a matter of fact, "adam" is simple Hebrew for "man." We can all step forward and introduce ourselves with that old palindrome: "Madam, I'm Adam."
So we're to blame. And what did we do? What's our sin at the root of it all?
We decided that we didn't want to serve God but wanted to become God ourselves. In other words, we became envious of God and wanted to take His place. That is our fall. And we are still fallen to this day because we still have that attitude.
You see, as the offspring of God, made in His image, we inherit the qualities of God—like Him, we are eternal, full of knowledge and bliss. But we possess those divine qualities in minute quantity. For we are not God. God is great and One without a second. We, His creatures, are tiny and many without number. The creator is independent, and we are dependent. The dependent many are by constitution eternal servants of the independent One, and as long as we act as servants, we remain in the kingdom of God and enjoy full divine life with Him.But some among the innumerable, dependent souls don't like that subordination. We thought—and still think—it better to be God. We rebellious souls are sent into the material world, a place created just for us to play out our fantasies. We cannot be God—the post is filled—but here we can forget Him and work on our own little God projects.
That's why this world is so crazy and hellish. It's chock-full of people trying to make it as God—driven to be the enjoyer and the controller; mad to be the lord of all they survey. And with such a desire naturally comes envy and hate, as we plunge into an unresting struggle to own and control the resources of matter, to seize what others have and annex it to ourselves, and to defend what we've snatched against the encroachment of others. But all this springs from the original sinful will—the desire to become the Lord. All beings born into the material world, Kåñëa explains in Bhagavad-gétä (7.27), show the taint of this original sin in the form of desire and hate. That desire and hate breaks out everywhere, but the original desire is, Why can't I be God? And the original hate, Why should Krishna be God? But we can change our will at any time. By fully acknowledging that God is the proprietor of everything, the friend of everyone, and the enjoyer of all, we can end this stupid and vicious struggle to dominate and control each other and to possess this earth for ourselves. Now we have dedicated some of our best brains to furthering this struggle; and bestowed upon suffering humanity the ripe fruit of our original sin. Krishna predicts in Bhagavad-gitä (16.9) that persons who are envious of Him "engage in horrible works meant to destroy the world." It sure sounds like He's talking about us and our Adam.

Answer 9

The sin was not serving God by the fall of man at the garden of eden.

Answer 10

And Adam went on to live for 950 years despite of eating from that tree and committing the sin, when he was supposed to die on the same day, according to bible itself.

Then god curses whole mankind for his one act of disobedience.

Hmmmm... Doesn't make good business these days.