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do the atheists, wiccans, pagans, witches or any other group that are not in the "mainstream" religious groups.......have ANYTHING, violatons, dishonor, negative force or whatever, that is the equal to what the Christians call sin........

2007-08-28 19:47:40 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I will speak only for myself: the answer is No. That does not, by any means, claim that there is no such thing as evil; moral codes, which exist in all societies, derive from evolution, not religion.

2007-08-28 19:53:09 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Why Christians Must Steal From Secular Morality:
http://www.caseagainstfaith.com/submissions/steal_morality.htm
Christians must steal their moral rules from secular morality. They have no choice, as the Bible does not offer a moral system, it only offers a series of contradictory commands and a supposed threat of punishment in the "afterlife" for not following them - a punishment that is given equally to all violators - whatever the sin.

The Bible does nothing and can do nothing towards inculcating moral behavior on its own. Christians must steal from secular moral systems, and then merely graft their 'God threats' on top of this moral system. This is necessary. And the reason for this is simple: there is no morality in the Bible and there can be no morality in the Bible, because the Bible holds that 1) ALL 'sins' are equivalent (destroying any moral sense) AND 2) all moral behavior is immaterial, because works cannot save a person, AND finally all people are damned from birth.

In reality, Christians realize that some actions are more moral than others. They realize that moral actions exist in a hierarchy, and that rape is far worse than stealing a pencil. Yet the Bible holds that all 'sins' are equal, as all deserve the same punishment.

Christians also realize that humans can be moral agents... they expect moral behavior from others, and they view their own children as something to value. Yet the Bible holds that man is worthless, that he cannot be a moral agent, and that his sole salvation comes from grace. However, since Christians realize, implicitly, that all of these these points are obviously, prima facie false, they must steal from secular systems, that hold that 1) man obviously has a value 2) all 'sins' are obviously not equivalent and 3) a person cannot be held to be doing anything 'immoral' without intent.

2007-08-29 02:58:02 · answer #2 · answered by YY4Me 7 · 0 0

Yes and no.

We do have things that are considered wrong - people can dishonor themselves, offend the gods, even weaken themselves by breaking geasa. So, in that respect, yes, there's rules that shouldn't be broken, and consequences for breaking them.

However, few of the Pagan religions have a concept like Original Sin.

2007-08-29 13:55:05 · answer #3 · answered by ArcadianStormcrow 6 · 0 0

Wiccans believe that they suffer the consequences of their actions in this life, not eternally in an afterlife like Christianity. The one thing Wiccans particularly frown on (outside of general morality and laws like murder, rape, etc) is oathbreaking. Oathbreakers can become pariahs among Wiccans and many Pagans.

2007-08-29 12:04:09 · answer #4 · answered by Nightwind 7 · 0 0

of course good and bad honor and dishonor don't stop just because your mainstream religions are deleted in fact these things of justice would probably receive more attention and find enormous improvements .keep in mind the justice system is not in any was originated from Christian beliefs but common law before these religious beliefs started in England. ethical politics predate Christ as do many moral codes .

2007-08-29 02:57:51 · answer #5 · answered by dogpatch USA 7 · 0 0

For the most part they do but i dont think atheists do. For them its more a sense of wrong and right and right is needed for society to function and for people to be content. All people believe in some kind of right and wrong although not all believe in sin in the sense that god will punish you.

2007-08-29 02:56:24 · answer #6 · answered by Faz 4 · 0 0

The witch down the street backed into my car. Actually, she might not be a witch, but she backed into my car....I think.

2007-08-29 02:54:53 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

This, my friends, is an example of religious indoctrination. You see, the parents of the asker has obviously informed them that non-_______s are all horrible people.

I guess I'll regret saying this once I pay for it before God.

2007-08-29 02:52:30 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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