home school help???

Question

i live in ohio and last year i home schooled my 2 girls 6th grade and 10th this year they decided to go back to school my youngest got put in 7th grade no questions asked but my oldest they will not let her go to the 11th grade right now she is helping the teachers teach! i keep getting the runaround from the school the guidance copunselor said home schooling does not count because i am not employed by the state to teach her was last year all for nothing? by the way my oldest is a straight a student and took the ogts and was advanced in three of them and passed the rest with no problem please someone help thank you

elton the a's for my child are by the school standard thank you every on for your advice i talked to principal today and sent a copy of the laws they really dont know anything he stated he would talk to the school lawyers and get back to me im going to gather all my daughters school work and request a meeting with the board members hopefully this will work thank all

thank you all so much for your help i love this site i called the school and told them to talk to their lawyer well it worked my daughter is back in the grade she deserves to be thank you for giving the strength to fight the school we won!!!!!!!!!!

Answer 1

Call the board and ask to talk to their attorney about homeschooling laws in Ohio. That's completely bogus, but often schools do not know the homeschooling laws in their state. It does too count, and it's ridiculous the way they are treating her. When she was enrolled they should have gone through testing, to see where she was academically, that's how most districts handle homeschoolers reentering high school. It is often different for lower grades, because they generally keep all the kids together regardless. in high school they divide them up according to ability. i would demand immediate testing and to get her into classes.

Answer 2

Hey Elton...are you outright retarded?

Homeschooling is not a cirriculum by the way, Homeschooling is an educational choice. Different homeschoolers use different cirriculum.

How the hell could you have a Masters Degree yet not have passed the eighth grade or have eight grade knowlege...I would like to know how you came to that conclusion.

Homeschooling is not popular? Look up homeschooling groups on yahoo and see how many hits you get per state...dare ya too!

Oh LMAOPIMP at the *It is curious to the masses why anyone would choose this course of action for their children because it does not include social skills that children of public or private schools enjoy. *

Oh boy is that funny! So in your opinion children of the same age are the best role models of socialization? Hmmm that is some real thinking there :) You know us homeschoolers obviously and know how we hide our kids from society never to be seen by others. They have no friends and do not get that oh so important "real world" experience of being in a classroom full of other children who were born the same year as them..yeah cause in the "real world" when you go to work it is going to be by birth year and you will only work with people your own age?

Yes, she can prove her daughter is a straight A student, because homeschooling is legal in every state. The laws differ but it is legal.


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To the origional poster. Sorry they are giving you a hard time. Do you have a high school transcript that you made? If so that should help.

Contact hslda.org right away...even if you were not a member. The lawyers there love to get their hands on cases like yours!!

Answer 3

The odd thing is that while colleges readily accept a homeschoolers work, Public High schools do not. If you Homeschool all the way through she'll be fine, otherwise she will have to repeat. I have told others this, and it is true in most cases. You must decide in 9th grade what type of school you will be doing all through High School.

My advice is to keep homeschooling her. You can issue a diploma and transcript and colleges will accept it. Its only the Public School that won't.

You can also see if they will work with you for credit recovery. Sometimes you can do credit recovery by testing out of some credits... one school that does this is http://www.edanywhere.com but make sure the school will accept those credits first, otherwise its just one more thing that won't count in the school's eyes.


Even if the school doesn't recognize the credits, the year wasn't really for nothing. You probably grew closer to your children, they learned a lot, your daughter is smart.

Really, I would just stay with homeschooling or send her to Community College now. Why let the Public school tell you what you did doesn't count.

Elton, parents can give their students unbiased grades. A percentage is a percentage no matter who figures out the math.

Answer 4

That's one of the big problems in moving children to high school after they've already started homeschooling for it: many high schools will not recognize the credits.

Here's how it works at a high school: they set up credit requirements, they set up courses and the required learning outcomes to earn those credits. Because someone has done work at home doesn't mean they've met the school's specific work for credit. Or, because someone's done online classes doesn't even mean the school will accept the credits because English 1 for the online school isn't necessarily the same content as English 1 for the high school.

So, you need to talk to the school about how she might be able to get those credits without doing the courses all over again. If they are unwilling, you'll need to talk to your daughter about it and ask her if she wants to be held back, find a high school that will accept her into 11th, or finish high school at home.

Answer 5

Politics.

Ask them how they would react if your daughter had spent the last year in a private school. If she had gone to the most highly regarded private school in Ohio for the last 12 months, would the public school still think they could get away with saying 'that doesn't count' because the teachers at the private school aren't employed by the State either!

You might also try asking for the evidence that only the school's teachers are capable of teaching your daughter what she needed to know to pass year 10. If you choose to do that, you should know that a number of US States (not Ohio though to the best of my knowledge) have been challenged by the US Courts to provide the evidence that unqualified teachers (homeschooling parents) are somehow not as capable of teaching as professional teachers...

...and, on every single occasion, those States have failed to come up with a single shred of evidence to support their assertion that teaching by parents is somehow unsatisafactory or not of an equal quality to the teaching provided by professional teachers in school.

I think of that and laugh whenever I see parents, kids, teachers, busybodies, stickybeaks or trolls here insisting on their (unproven and unsupported) belief that one has to be a professional teacher in order to teach something.

Answer 6

Well, here's the rules for Ohio...

Ohio Legal Home Schooling Options: 1


Option: 1

Legal Option:
Establish and operate a home school

Attendance:
900 hours per year

Subjects:
Language, reading, spelling, writing, goegraphy, history of the United States and Ohio, government, math, science, health, physical education, fine arts (including music), first aid, safety, and fire prevention

Qualifications:
High school diploma, GED, test scores showing high school equivalence, or work under a person with a baccalaureate degree until child’s test scores show proficiency or parent earns diploma or GED

Notice:
Submit an annual notice of intent to the local superintendent

Recordkeeping:
None

Testing:
Submit with renewal notification either: 1) standardized test scores, or 2) a written narrative showing satisfactory academic progress, or 3) an approved alternative assessment

Nothing about being employed by the state there. Actually, I don't know of any state in the US where you have to be "employed by the state". Are private school teachers employed by the state there? It makes no sense.

It really sounds like the guidance counselor has zero understanding of homeschooling law...there is a legal analysis on this site http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp?State=OH. You may want to give a copy of it to the guidance counselor.

It does look like Ohio administrators are coming up with completely fictional interpretations of the law, all over the state...so be prepared to stand your ground. If you're a member of HSLDA, you may want to give them a call - they've helped out many Ohio homeschoolers this year, from what I see.

If they end up not accepting her credits - which apparently, they can do - I would really recommend keeping her in homeschool. With her grades, she could probably easily take concurrent enrollment at a community college (which would have no problem accepting her work) and she would have the opportunity to graduate with a high school diploma (from you) as well as an Associates Degree (from the CC).




Edit...sorry, can't help myself. Elton, how completely mistaken you are. "Homeschooling is not a popular curriculum." (Which makes absolutely no sense anyway...are you aware of what a curriculum is?) "Homeschooling is not popular..." Is that why homeschooling numbers increase by 10-20% per year?

"Proof of learning is difficult to decide." Which would be why homeschooled kids are often ready for college coursework by age 15, and are accepted (with partial or full scholarships) to many of the best universities in the country. Which would be why they often score several percentage points higher, at a younger age, than their classroom counterparts. Thanks for clearing that up.

"...does not integrate children into a society of culture..." and "...it does not include social skills that children of public or private schools enjoy. " Gee, like the questions we see on Y!A? There was a question tonight about a high school girl who wanted to sleep with her teacher, and there was one a few weeks ago about how to get drunk and blow fire bombs with a lighter and a bottle of whiskey. Those social skills must really be working. Curiouser and curiouser.

Elton, please stick to something you know about.

Answer 7

Did you keep records of what she did do??? If so then you should have that to take to the school along with her end of the year testing for last year. If you kept these things then take them to the school board and talk to them. Tell them that this is what she did and this is what she scored and then she should be able to be put where she should be.

Answer 8

I live in Ohio as well and we home school all of ours. Currently I have 1 that graduated online and 2 that are still home schooled online. There are many online schools in Ohio. OHDELA is a good one but right now we prefer OHVA

Answer 9

Home schooling is not a popular curriculum. The reason is that people want to know what you know as a parent to pass onto them. You may have a Master's degree; yet you may only have an 8th grade education.

Home schooling is not popular, does not integrate children into a society of culture and proof of learning is difficult to decide. It is curious to the masses why anyone would choose this course of action for their children because it does not include social skills that children of public or private schools enjoy.

You state you have a straight "A" student. Is that by your reference or by state standards? You must acknowledge that the majority of parents will disagree with your proposal and grades. It is possible that you do have a "grade A student", however it would be nearly impossible to prove.

Answer 10

i live in Ohio too, and i don't know why they wouldn't let her go into 11th grade. but sounds like you are getting things handled. good luck!