god says kill?

Question

Only looking for non-flammatory answers.

Why is it that when someone kills and claims god told them to do so, it's a lie because "god would never do that"? Yet you can open a bible and read where god has told people to kill.

I'm not saying killing is right, this question came from a conversation. One person had commented that god wouldn't do that, and when I asked why is it different from god saying kill in the bible, the only response I got was "that's different".

This was coming from a person who says the bible is completely true.

So with that thought process I asked why is is not possible for the killer to be telling the truth.

Not one religious person inhouse at the time would continue the conversation.

My point is why is
a. hard for some believers to think it happened

b.

The point of the question is if the many points of the bible ARE taken as true to some people. Why do those same people say it's not possble for the killer to have been told to kill by god.

Now I dont' know if he heard a voice or saw a sign, I just wanna know why it's considered impossible.

@ homeland security

I've read more than just one chapter, and funny you mention cherry picking since it's been in every service I've ever attended.

You know, when the preacher starts with some verses in one book then jumps from book to book using various verses support their sermon.

Maybe the word I need to use is PLAUSIBLE instead of POSSIBLE.

This isn't about the killer killing, I'm asking why his statement is not considered plausible.

Answer 1

As long as some one can BS that god told them to do something and do it all in his name, people are tend to be left alone *coughbushcough*

Answer 2

Excuse me if this is a re-run for you, I only have one answer to certain questions. No matter how the Bible is analyzed, it is flawed. Strictly discussing only the New Testament, translators had complete discretion over content. If a story wasn’t complete, multiple stories were woven together to form one book. Pieces were moved around and put together like a puzzle. When a turn of a phrase seemed to even slightly disagree with the Church, it was removed in its entirety.
We now know that multiple scrolls of material, intended to be included as part of the Bible, were carefully hidden instead. This was necessary to avoid destruction of both the authors, and the information.
Scripted Codices, have slowly been discovered. They’ve been carbon dated and authenticated by experts to prove they were written at the same time the Bible was written. Numerous experts believe these writings were intended to be part of the original Bible. However, it is also true to say that these compositions are still the cause of great debate.
The New Testament was written two centuries after The Christ was crucified. Before the Bible was let loose to commoners, these powerful people had just simply raped it.
When one controls the religion of a people, they then control those people. This is why it was so important to make sure the Bible only told the stories approved of by the King and his Church. It also explains the hiding of certain texts. If anything written even smacks of freedom for the common man, it must be destroyed. For if it was found that the King was not god, the King could loose his ability to control his kingdom. As the translators were loyal to the King, the Bible was edited very carefully indeed.
Speaking only of the New Testament, the Bible remains one of the very best set of life instructions known to man. There is only one, most important law. It is: To love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your might, and to love thy neighbor as you love yourself. If this Law is followed to the letter, it isn’t possible to break even one of the old Ten Commandments.
When Jesus was born, all prophecies from the Old Testament were fulfilled. The Old Testament passed away with the first coming of the Christ. The Ten Commandments were no longer relevant. This Commandment was the only one needed in order to not sin, and live as God wants man to live.
Blessed Be

Answer 3

In the old testiment you may find instances where God allowed for killing. But the New Testament is a new book, ok? They did things differently under the Old Testament because Christ had not come at that time. His coming was made know back then but had not happened.
Jesus now in the New Testament (which is why it is called the New Testament) came as a sacrafice for our sins, so the things they did back in the Old they no longer need to do, cuz Jesus through his death burial and resurrection paid for it all. Now I will be honest and say that I did not read the entire question you posed, however, God has already said he will not rest til he makes your enemies his footstool....He said vengenance is not ours it is his. So I hope that helped. If not I should have finished reading what you wrote...Galatians 5, I believe speaks of the fruits of the spirit, none of which involves killing.

Answer 4

Yes,, God did tell several to kill in the old testament. Then Jesus came and some new things came with grace. We now live under grace and the teachings of Jesus. The bible in the 10 commandments says, thy shall not kill. Furthermore, we are to abide by the laws of the land unless they go against the word of God. God also made the statement [or vow] with man that he would not do somethings again. Like destroy the world with a flood. Gods word will never change, but we have to rightly divide the word as the Bible tells us to. Many things happened before the Bible was ever written. The Bible was written as God gave the writers the words to write.

Answer 5

"Yet you can open a bible and read where god has told people to kill."

Using that presupposition, consider these meditative thoughts which will bring forth a genuine answer in your mind:

1. Pick a religion, any of the three main religions of Abraham.
2. Think of your family, your primary ethnic identity, along with your ancestors and descendants. Think of your people's wealth of resources - or lack thereof. Focus primarily on those things!
3. Valuable land or strategic real estate. Precious resources such as gold, silver, iron ore, diamonds, oil, coal. Imagine your neighbor (or whoever) has some of those things, but you do not.
4. That is only ONE scenario...

Answer 6

A lot of people in poor mental health state they were guided by God to do an evil deed. However, there is evil in the world that will fester, grow and cause havoc if not stopped. Destruction is the only way that seems to work with true evil. I don't like it but I will save your innocent family by destroying evil that threatens it. Please recall that in the Bible it says that Jesus came to put to rest the prophesy of the past. His message was be cool and don't get upset if you don't need to. But if you need to don't be afraid to clear out a temple or two. The Bible was written by men. So its flawed somewhat. But it is believed to be inspired due to its survival, historical precedent and good life lessons. Hope that helps.

Answer 7

The only point you are making is that neither of you or the others know the bible well enough to argue, attack or defend it.
The most important book ever put together and no one can find time to study it. They can read books in series as all the best seller list show. So what's the hold up.
If you aren't going to learn the subject you shouldn't lecture.

Answer 8

It is obviously undeniable in the Old Testament that God often blessed the military efforts of Israel, even commanding them to go and clear out the land of Canaan so that they could settle there. Today, a militant nation doesn't seem to appealing. But put it into the context of a day and age where conquerors like the Assyrians would force their prisoners to carry captured plunder, stick searing rods of metal into their eyes to blind them, and kill the prisoners if they were not useful as slaves.
Sometimes God would, as judgment upon other idolatrous nations, give Israel instruction to wipe them out, in order to prevent their evil from spreading. Not only that, God would even let Israel herself be captured temporarily if she strayed from the path she had promised to stay in. It was for her own good, and Israel would soon return to the correct path and her fortunes would be restored.
That was the Old Testament. In the New Testament, did you ever read about God commanding Paul to hack off the head of any particular unbeliever? No. Have you ever read of the Twelve Disciples going on a violent raid for God, slaughtering all who refused to accept Jesus as their Savior and Lord? No. That is the difference grace makes. In OT times, there was no "blood of Jesus." If you messed up, you messed up. You could offer sacrifices to God, but goat's blood is insufficient when it comes to truly covering sin (Hebrews 10:4).
In the NT times, Jesus now had taken the punishment upon Himself for our sins, and if we choose to accept this gift, then we are relieved of our consequence--the eternal punishment that we racked up for ourselves.

God loves you and wants you to be saved. Are you willing to accept this gift of grace? Seriously.

EDIT: Siar, you misquoted the verse in Luke chapter 19. Though Jesus did in fact say those words, He said them in the context of a story, a parable. He was not literally saying those words, it was a character in the parable who was speaking them. As for all the other verses, it helps when you take them in context. If you took all the court preceedings of the entire United States history, for example, and only listed all of the convictions of the murders, abusers, molesters, etc, without giving the reasons why or the context in which these convictions were reached by the court, do you think this alone would be an accurate representation of the United States court system?

Answer 9

IN OLD TESTAMENT, YES
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God is the Supreme Authority and he wanted to annihilate anything that stands against his chosen people, Israel.

HE IS CONCERNED ABOUT OTHERS AS WELL
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He was giving a lesson that none can stand against his will or his people has no reason to survive.

But he has a wonderful plan to bless all the families on the earth thru Abraham's seed.

And all those who died and will enjoy life eternal.

Answer 10

God commands the Israelites to kill many many times in the old testament or gives examples of times where he commanded his followers to kill en mass destroying whole families to thee 4th and 5th generations. There have been studies recently that suggest that God was originally the war god of the old pre-monotheistic Israeli pantheon, which would explain a lot.

Answer 11

Sorry for the flammatory answer, but here's my answer just the same: Because god is not real, the bible is a mythological book that teaches if the person does not agree with you, then it's ok to kill. The bible is full of contradictions, like thou shalt not kill, but then god commands someone to go ahead and kill.