There are many transitional fossil for many species, including our own, yet the fundies demand even more transitional forms, and when more are found, they demand more again.
Clearly they aren't aware of the rarity of fossils and the unique conditions needed for fossilisation.
When other resources are cited explaning the many corroborative dating methods, they will deny the well documented science behind them, and offer the standard creationist party line spiel about the "inaccuracies of carbon dating" using "known" false and dishonest examples to do so, and which are not part of the mainstream sciences.
Isn't it strange to see these fundies demand and evidence and cited resources and automatically reject or ignore them, when their beliefs require NO EVIDENCE and are based on hearsay and faith.. How convenient..
Science merely describes the natural world honestly, and has no agenda for or against any religion, yet these people dishonestly attack and misrepresent science.
2007-08-28
15:30:45
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Can anyone describe the mentality behind this dishonest creation/christian fundie behaviour..?
Anymore examples are welcome..
2007-08-28
15:32:23 ·
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Rev Einstein, are you even aware of how dishonest your position is..?
You are offering lies, selectively edited and outdated science, misquotes and are freely misrepresenting the truth..
How do you justify such blatant dishonesty when attempting to discredit science, when it speaks NOTHING of your beliefs..?
Not only are you a liar and a fraud, it just doesn't make any sense..!
2007-08-28
15:55:45 ·
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They are in denial.
2007-08-28 19:45:24
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answered by Anonymous
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Who are you to be talking Einstein? I've PERSONALLY called you AT LEAST three times on misquoting Stephen Jay Gould, an ardent supporter of evolution, and yet you keep doing it. Should he just get an education on what he wants to hear? That's all that you do! I'm sure Jesus would be really happy that you lie for him. Seriously, God's not against that sort of thing at all, is he?
Edit: And yes, I can describe it. Look at Rev. Einstein's answer. It's all right there. You also might want to check out this site. It's great for debunking creatonist claims:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html
Just copy and paste. It's all they do.
And Catherine: he knows exactly how wrong he is. He just doesn't care.
And one last thing to the "Rev." Even Answers in Genesis knows that your arguments are crap:
"What arguments are doubtful, hence, inadvisable to use?
“There are no transitional forms.”
Since there are candidates, even though they are highly dubious, it’s better to avoid possible comebacks by saying instead: “While Darwin predicted that the fossil record would show numerous transitional fossils, even a century and a half later, all we have are a handful of disputable examples.” See Q&A: Fossils."
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp
2007-08-28 22:46:26
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answered by Anonymous
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so you wan them to agree and then disbelieve their bible? sorry that will never happen.
and please although darwin is the the one who first came up with the evolution theory , it doesnt mean he would have to believe it neither does it prove he has the most knowledge.
he just gave modern biologist a possibility of what could happen.
and carbon dating has been explain ALOT of time , those bogus resources are by christian websites , and one major example they are lying is they use it on a live penguin .
no archeologist who know how to properly used carbon dating would know that it woulding work on a live or dead penguin due to several reason.
yeah and there are bs christian websites that explain earth didnt move and illogical to move , and some even still claim that earth is flat , and that the spherical earth you see is photoshop
and hey , they jailed galileo when he say earth rotate around the sun , guess who is the REAL one with conspiracy .
till date , i havent came across a christian website that actually look into scientific stuff in all angle.
and ya for Rev. Einstein , i agree that he crap so much that theres no point looking at his reply , he merely copy paste from some chrisitan website that i already have briefly seen before.
oh man wouldnt it be stupid if a chrisitan websites debunk it's own theory ?
2007-08-28 22:40:26
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answered by Curious 3
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*insert a chopped up quote from a scientist from 1970s and use it to attempt to disprove evolution*
Oh I'm sorry, It looks like someone has beat me to it......
Transitional fossils exist. Perhaps its not complete yet for all species, such as human, but enough has been established to get a good idea of where we come from. The transitional fossils for horses have pretty much been completed as far as major transitional fossils go.
2007-08-28 22:47:53
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answered by Anonymous
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No proof of evolutionary leaps. No animal has ever gained a conscience. animals do not feel remorse for killing They do not know right from wrong. also they do not invent or ponder. No animal has thought "hum I don't like living here I think I will invent a plane and move to hawaii. Only humans have this ability. You can show evolution with in a species but not mental evolutionary leaps of consciousness.
2007-08-28 22:39:51
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answered by budleit2 6
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I think it is an attempt at retaliation for when they spout "evidence" from the bible and the obvious reaction to that.
2007-08-28 22:39:07
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answered by Anonymous
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Actually, what happens is that when we examine the "transition" fossils, we discover they are nothing of the sort. You also assume data that evolutionists claim as evidence cannot be used by creationists. In fact it can. It all comes down to which speculation do you prefer to believe. Maybe some day we could go over exactly what I am talking about, but not tonight.
2007-08-28 22:40:04
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answered by The GMC 6
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The ONLY evidence they want to see is proof that goddidit.
2007-08-28 23:05:10
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answered by Anonymous
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There are NO transitional fossils...
**It is amazing to me that laymen like yourself who push evolution theory so vehemently don't even know what most evolutionary scientists have said about the fossil record....
Even Charles Darwin was honest when he confesses in 'Origin of Species'; " But as by THIS THEORY innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we NOT find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?" -Charles Darwin
To the above fact, even the most world renown (evolutionary) biologists agree...." New species almost always appear suddenly in the fossil record with NO intermediate links to ancestors in older rocks in the same region. The fossil record with its abrupt transitions OFFERS NO SUPPORT for gradual change". - Stephen J. Gould (Natural History , June, 1977, p.22)
"The extreme rarity (of transitional forms) in the fossil record persists as the 'trade secret' of palentology. The evolutionary tree (diagarms) that adorn our textbooks is.....NOT the evidence of fossils". - Stephen Gould (Natural History, 1977, vol.86, p.13)
"Evolution REQUIRES intermediate forms between species and paleontology DOES NOT provide them" (David Kitts, paleontologist and evolutionist).
According to Scripture NOTHING evolved but everything was created "AFTER THEIR KIND"....which is directly consistent with the fossil record.
The thing to remember is that evolution is just a theory, a speculation, an unproven assumption....and NOT supported by the fossil record.
"From the beginning of the Creation God made them male and female..."-- Jesus (Mk. 10:6)
2007-08-28 22:39:35
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answered by Anonymous
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