Abortion. Should men have any rights in this area?

Question

Again this evening I'm sat on the fence. I can see both sides of a delicate argument. Clearly in the case of rape then it's no, so don't state the obvious. Where do you sit on this one?

Oh and the God Squad... please spare us all the bible babble.

I am not asking if you are pro or anti abortion merely asking if men should have rights in this area....why don't some people read the bloody question properly.

Answer 1

It took two people for the pregnancy to occur. The woman and man made their choice, and in turn should be able to live with the possible
consequences of their actions. I think that men have just as much a right to the child as does the mother. If it wasn't for both people the woman would not be pregnant.

Say if I impregnated a woman. She did not want to keep the child, but I did. I should have a right to what is 1/2 mine, if the person who is responsible for the other 1/2 does not wish to keep it. Simple as that.

Lastly, the child is innocent. There is no reason to harm any innocent person, regardless of age. And no, I am not a religious nut. In fact, I am pretty much atheist. So that has nothing to do with my anti-abortion stance.

On a related note. Many women say, it is a woman's say, because it is her body and thus her choice. This, except for rape cases, is crap. That woman already made her CHOICE, when she had sex. People need to learn that they are responsible for their actions. Abortions are yet another example of how many many people refuse to accept RESPONSIBILITY for their actions.

Answer 2

Ya the man should have a word in it, but less then 50%. Ya, i know that doesn't sound fair to you, but who really has to carry the baby, give birth to it, buy it stuff, and take care of it for 20 years no matter what. The guys can walk away at any point, but not even child support is worth the countless stressful hours of a women playing the role of mom & dad. If you truely don't want her to get an abortion you should convince her you'd su;pport the baby competely such as taking it right after birth and feeding it, putting it to bed, and playing with it while the wife only pays child support. Almost no guy is up for it or once they do get there they realize why the women wanted an abortion. The women still has to give birth to the child. Imagine stretching your lip over your entire head.. yea thats how birth feels like. Mind that, but some guys faint when they see the baby come out, so how on earth could they handle the labour. The man was naturally made to procreate with a lot of women using his entire life time. The women was naturaly mad to stay with one man because she must take care of his child. Our true nature always has a effect on us. Even though we are more educated then our ancesters we still bear the love of a women loves with feeling and a man loves with sex. Somtimes the roles are reversed, sure not all individuals are the same, but this is usually the case. Now since the opion is opened to get rid of a life that might of not of even had a good 1, the women may take it. Back then a women had to bear the child nomatter what and even if the husband was abusive. The child would be born a moung abuse and would have a scared life. Maybe the father is good now a days, but what about the fact that the parents don't get along? The child would feel sad as it got older to really realize what position he'd be in his life. It's not always this way, but sadely our divorce rate tells us that this time period like many others isn't exzactly the best time to bring up a child.

Answer 3

Yes they should, but it does depend on the situation and circumstances, there are so many scenarios.

If it's an absent father who has no interest anyway, and the woman decides not to go ahead with the pregnancy, it's her choice. If it's an under age girl, no. If a father wants to play a part in an unborn babies life then this is different, he should play a part in the decision, however at the end of the day it's the woman who has to carry the baby for 9 months, it's the woman's body, she's the one that has to give birth not the man. A woman will have to decide to return to work or stay at home, if she go's back to work there's the feeling's of guilt because she is not with her baby, the woman may not actually want a child, there are so many factors.

While a father has a say, ultimately it is the woman's right/choice to make the right decision for her. I know that not everyone will agree with this, and the abortion debate will rage on indefinitely.

Answer 4

I really think that it depends on the circumstances of the two people involved. Say that they both used protection and it happened anyways. He wore a condom and she was on the pill. They both obviously weren't attempting to create a child and were taking responsible means to prevent it.

If she wants to keep it, I think it goes without saying.

If she decides that she wants an abortion, should the man have a say?

I think it really depends on the level that their relationship is on. If they are in love. I think it would only be appropriate for the woman to ask consent from the man she's supposed to respect. It is after all, a product of their love for each other.

Now say it was a one night stand. He says he's willing to help but seems flakey at best. Should he be able to decide whether she has to keep the child? What if she doesn't even like the guy after all and simply regrets everything from him altogether?

I think it really boils down to a personal issue between the man and woman involved. A couple should only have to answer to each other when it's their future together (or apart) that's at stake.

I do however believe that it's justified for the man to dissolve the relationship if the woman gets an abortion against his wishes.

Oh, and to actually answer your question, I think that if they are married, the man should have just as much a say in a pregnancy/abortion as the woman, but only in marraige. Otherwise I think it's simply a moral obligation.

Sorry for being so damn long-winded.

Answer 5

Its a complex issue. In the american law system, I believe a man should have a say. Due to the fact that the man has a minumum 21 year servitude to this woman. If this man the "father" loses his job or even moves to a lower paying job. He will accumulate debt for the rest of his life, be stripped of a passport, drivers license and or be imprisoned (because the payments are finite amounts)( Though there are deadbeats who deserve what they get.) In esscene, forcing him to not have control his body and the fruits of his labor for a lifetime, not a mere 9 month. And going to work at the average job for 21 years is stastically more dangerous then pregnancy. Moreover, the statement that a woman is locked in for life and could never leave; due solely to the fact that she is a woman, is bull. My friends wife was transient, it became a problem she left, still lives in the same town. His daughter was 8 month old last time she saw her "mom" and has not seen her since, she is now 5. The woman could give up the child for adoption. Many people are looking for children due to high infertility rates (due to increased rates of stds and prolong use of regimented birth control) plus people are starting families later. If either partner wants the child the child should be carried. If the mother wants the child the should pay child support to her. If the father wants the child the woman gives birth no further responsibility. With the whole life/death quality of life issue. That is the eqivalent of me saying i can come up with an arbitary standard and kill anyone on the street whom does not meet it. By killing them i am doing them a service of putting them out of their misery, plus i get to feel better about myself for killing them. Moreover many great prople grew up orpan or in bad situations Jesus, Rosseau,Thomas Edison, Abraham Lincoln, Alexander Hamilton John D. Rockeffeller etc. should they all have been aborted.

Sadly, that is why fatherhood is a suckers bet these days. Whether your are there supporting them and rasing them from cradle to grave or a sperm donor, you have the same rights. none! Your wife could leave or give up the kids for adoption and face no reprocussions. if a man left (he can't ive them up for adoption though a woman can) he would have a hearing schedule and if he's not there a warrant. If your wife cheats on you and concieves a child in her infidelity and lies to you and commit perjury on the birth certificate or falsely names you the father. the courts will hold you financially responsible for the child. becuse she doing it "in the best interest of the child"(more like herself) cause irreprobale harm to the child.

Well I hope I am never in this situation.

PS
Not in new york state and many others oh and you need the mother approval and the courts approval to sign away support, which in the vast majority of cases does not happen. If the bankrupcy statment, were true why do state keep a you on the books for uncollected child support. the payments are a transfer payment to the state. not a traditional creditors debt that would be absolved.

Answer 6

Good question. I agree with you when you say: "Can a man who does not want a child voluntarily sign off his rights to the child, leaving him with no financial obligation? I can't imagine anyone saying a woman should be forced into having an abortion or into having a child, however, I don't see arguments against forcing a man to accept the woman's decision." I am not personally pro-abortion but if equality is what women seek, men also should be allowed to decide whether they want to be parents (even after conception), instead of having that decision forced upon them by somebody else.

Answer 7

I believe that men are entitled to rights in detemining the fate of the unborn child. The act of procreation is a joint act, though it may not be the intended result. It seem to me that when a woman aborts a child it is because she does not want the responsibility of raising it. But if the man that took part in the creation of the child has and objection, he should have the right to the life of that child he took part in creating. He should also be responsible for caring for the child, and even providing the daily care for it. When a man makes it clear that he wants the child to live he should also make it clear that he will raise the child that the woman does not want. He should also be responsible for the costs associated with bringing the child into the world. I see many males, that do not want to take the responsibility of claiming what they created. A man is someone that thinks with the head on his shoulders and uses his brain to do what is right by the child.

Answer 8

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Answer 9

Yes, the father should have rights if he's going to be there an support the mother in every way he is needed. Will he be there for the child in the future or will he take a hike after the baby is born? I am for both mother and father rights, but the truth is I am for the unborn child more than anybody else. They have nobody looking after their rights and their very little life depends on the decision of two adults.

Answer 10

The father of the baby (except in the case of rape etc) should have a say in the decision of abortion, after all the mother may carry the child but without the father the child would never have been created, If she don't want the child whats to say that he wouldn't bring it up. Or put the baby up for adoption for the couples out there that can't have children no matter what they've tried.

These couples would give anything to have a child and i bet it breaks their hearts when they hear of someone having an abortion thinking if they hadn't have aborted the birth of that child we could have brought him/her up. I'm well anti abortion, i'd rather struggle and bring a child up as a single parent than have the mother of my child have an abortion just because she doesn't want a child.