Please, no Muslim answers. I need the Catholic answer for this. Thanks.
2007-08-28 07:35:37 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The simple answer to your question is no. You can trust this answer because I am a Catholic priest. To help you understand more of what is written here, I would strongly suggest you read Gregory of Nyssa's "An answer to Ablabius: That We Should Not Think Of Saying There Are Three Gods." Gregory explains clearly the use of names in the trinity and why the Father is not the Son and the Son not the Father. Also, why the Father and Son are not the Spirit and vice versa.
It is a short text, but packed with meaning. So, take your time reading it. I will try to break it down for you a little bit to whet your appetite for it.
Gregory begins by plainly stating the counter-argument of those who believe there are three gods in the Trinity and not one God.
Abalabius' argument runs thus:
"Peter, James, and John are called three men, despite the fact they share in a single humanity. And there is nothing absurd in using the word for their nature in the plural (man), if those who are thus united in nature be many. If, then, general usage grants this, and no one forbids us to speak of two as two, or of more than two as three, how is it that we in some way compromise our confession, by saying on the one hand that the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit have a single godhead, and by denying on the other that we can speak of three gods? For in speaking of the mysteries of faith, we acknowledge three Persons and recognize there is no difference in nature between them."
Gregory answers:
"Our first point is this: To use in the plural the word for the nature of those who do not differ in nature, and to speak of "many men," is a customary misuse of language. It is like saying that there are many human natures. That this is so is clear from the following instance. When we address someone, we do not call him by the name of his nature (man). Since he would have that name in common with others, confusion would result; and everyone within hearing would think that they were being addressed. For the summons was not by an individual name, but by the name of a common nature. Rather do we distinguish him from the multitude by using his proper name, that name, I mean, which signifies a particular subject. Hence, as we have said, the term "man" does not refer to the particularity of each, but to their common nature. For Luke is a man, as is Stephen. But that does not mean that if anyone is a man he is therefore Luke or Stephen. Rather does the distinction of persons arise from the individual differences we observe in each.
In short, when we speak of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit it is the distinction of persons that is refered to and not the nature of God. Therefore, just as Luke, Stephen, and James share a single nature (human) it would be foolish to say that Stephen is Luke and Luke is Stephen and both are James and James is the both of them, which they surely are not. You and I share that same nature (human), but you are not I and I am not you. This can also be said of the Trinity and is why the Son is not the Father or Spirit nor the Father and Spirit the Son although they share the same nature.
I hope this has been helpful. May the Lord bless and keep you. May the light of His face shine upon you.
God's and your beast of burden
Fr. john
2007-08-28 08:29:36 · answer #1 · answered by som 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No Jesus is God the Son, who is both different and the same as God the Father, who was born of the Virgin Mary and named Jesus at birth.
To put it another way: God the Father didn't "come down" to become God the Son. God the Father and God the Son already existed together before time began, along with God the Holy Spirit.
God the Son did come down. I know it doesn't make logical sense to say He was both different and the same as God the Father, but there you have the mystery of the trinity, per the Catholic Church.
2007-08-28 07:41:51 · answer #2 · answered by Acorn 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Jesus is the son of God . First bor of all creations RE 3:14 & Col a million:15-17 Made a guy Ga 4:4 , Heb 2:9 Born of Gods spirit Matt 3:sixteen-17 Exalted greater than pre Human life Pp2:9&10 God not 3 DE 6:4 , Mal 2:10,Mark 10:18, Rom 3:29&30 Son Created Isa forty 4:6 God is the ruler own domicile page 2:5&6 ,Dan 4:35 God especially own domicile page 2:10&eleven Son obedient John 8:forty two ,12:forty 9 Father extra effective John 14:28 ,5:19 ,Heb 5:8 Jesus nonetheless subject to God own domicile page 2:9 , a million Co 15:28 , Mt 20:23 God the pinnacle of Christ , 1Co eleven:3 , John 20:17 ,Re1:6 Shall i circulate on ? If God sits on the suitable hand area of God the place does the Holy Spirit take a seat ? next to himself additionally ?
2016-10-17 05:19:18 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
not catholic, but.....
"Trinity" is a term that is not found in the Bible but a word used to describe what is apparent about God in the Scriptures. The Bible clearly speaks of God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit...and also clearly presents that there is only one God. Thus the term: "Tri" meaning three, and "Unity" meaning one, Tri+Unity = Trinity. It is a way of acknowledging what the Bible reveals to us about God, that God is yet three "Persons" who have the same essence of deity.
Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed: "the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God." In this Trinity of Persons the Son is begotten of the Father by an eternal generation, and the Holy Spirit proceeds by an eternal procession from the Father and the Son. Yet, notwithstanding this difference as to origin, the Persons are co-eternal and co-equal: all alike are uncreated and omnipotent. This, the Church teaches, is the revelation regarding God's nature which Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came upon earth to deliver to the world:
2007-08-28 07:45:50 · answer #4 · answered by phrog 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Good question!!
No - see the Athanacian Creed (MUCH more detailed and specific than either the Apostles' or Nicene). Genghis: how can you quote this Creed in its entirety and have no understanding of what you've quoted????
There are three distinct Persons in the Godhead: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Not three Gods but one God; not one person but three Persons, etc.
2007-08-28 07:41:03 · answer #5 · answered by tracymoo 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are 3 "Persons", but one God.
2007-08-28 07:44:32 · answer #6 · answered by Deof Movestofca 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yes. See the Nicene Creed.
"We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of Heaven and Earth, and all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, The only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light form Light, true God from true God, begotten not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven:..."
Etc.
2007-08-28 07:39:13 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
Iam not giving you a muslim answer, just that i wish you luck with undertanding because too many will response with answer that never was.
2007-08-28 07:46:48 · answer #8 · answered by czaryang 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
no God is God and Jesus is the son of God.
2007-08-28 07:40:26 · answer #9 · answered by tookoolfool 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Jesus is his own father? Wait what?
This belief in itself blows me away that people try to "make-up" rationalizations to fit this scenario.
2007-08-28 07:41:52 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 4⤋