NASA observations show a 1.8 degree F. rise in the surface temp of Mars since 1970. Does GM sell SUV's there?

Question

You guys are hilarious, keep it up.

#1: I don't do links, do your own research, the global warming crowd doesn't acknowledge any dissent anyway. Witness the attack job they maintain on the Prof. Emeritus of Climatology at MIT.
#2: NASA has more weather data on Mars than any other planet. NONE of the data from any planet is relevent to proving mine or anyone else's point as 37 years is statistically insignificant.
#3: the point of all these "arguments" is weather, NOT climate. Weather varies greatly over the short term, climate does not.
#4: every "point" the global warming crowd seeks to make regarding climate is well within the planet earth's normal range.

Answer 1

This is another one of those things where some ignorant pukes find a piece of information they don't understand and claim it proves something entirely unrelated. You have to be pretty dumb to declare yourself an astronomer and that you understand the seasonal cycle of Mars, then turn around and call other people stupid. The warming you speak of is caused by the dust storms that happen every Martian year as the planet moves from it's long summer to it's long winter. You deniers are like stupidity on steroids!

Answer 2

You posted no source. I have heard people on this site say things like that but no source is ever given. I have also read on some space sites (not specifically NASA though) that the polar caps on Mars are getting smaller. But you cannot say that is because of the Sun, like most people are saying or implying when they use this statement in a global warming argument. If it was due to the Sun then Mars and Pluto should both be changing in the same way, but Pluto is cooling. There are other effects, such as orbital and axial tilt effects that are different for each planet, and other effects specific to each planet. It is way more complicated than you are acknowledging.

Answer 3

I think it'd be peachy if you'd provide a link supporting this statement. As is I can't judge for myself.

Even so though, Mars is only one of nine planets and about one-hundred-fifty or so moons in the solar system. Only three of them have shown any warming. Most have shown no trend in the time we've been able to monitor them, and some have shown cooling trends. So I don't see the significance of Mars showing signs of warming.

Answer 4

Can you include a link, I'd heard that warming on Mars was supposed to be similar to that on Earth but haven't read the NASA report? A link would be great.

What I'd like to know is why some planets are cooling, some are warming and most aren't really doing anything.

We know for certain that it's not the sun so what could it be?

Answer 5

NASA also says that the warming on Mars is due to massive dust storms, unique to Mars.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/2007/marswarming.html

If you think it's the Sun, care to explain why thousands of measurements of solar radiation actually show a decrease recently?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6290228.stm

And why most of the Soar System isn't warming?

Utter nonsense, refuted many times, here and elsewhere.

Answer 6

Chrysler has the Mars SUV market cornered, probably because that's where their largest manufacturing plant is located. Haven't you seen the "made on Mars" stickers? Mars is the new China.

Answer 7

Here is an interesting link, Is national Geographic funded by Exxon?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html


Just a few more examples of Interplanetary observed warming.

Climate Change on Jupiter by as much 10 Degrees F.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060504_red_jr.html



Neptune's largest moon Triton experiencing global warming.

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980526052143data_trunc_sys.shtml



And last but not least don't forget Pluto, even as it moves farther from the Sun.

Just for you Campelb...

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html

Answer 8

http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/dn11642

Note that Mars and Pluto, the two planets that show some warming, also have the most eccentric orbits among all the planets.

Answer 9

I've looked into globule warming. I don't think there's anything to worry about in my lifetime. I will be 103 next Thrursday.

Answer 10

Let me provide a link for you.

http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_solarsys_warming.html
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html

I wonder how much those little rover units are contributing to the problem. There wasn't anything wrong with Mars Climate until we started landing and crashing space craft there. Maybe we should stop all future landings to preserve Mars as "Pristine".