Followers of the Abrahamic God: a couple of questions for you....?

Question

Why did an "all-loving" God kill all of mankind and animals, only sparing Noah and his family, and the animals on the ark?

Why did an "all-loving" God kill all of the first-born sons of Egypt?

Why did an "all-knowing" God have trouble finding Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden after they ate the forbidden fruit?

Why did an "all-powerful" God allow Lucifer to rebel against him and not just shut him down from the beginning, thus negating the effect of evil into a Utopian world?

Way to dodge the questions Echo.

Why are all the Christian answers "Read the Bible"?

I thought it was obvious from the fact that I KNOW these stories that I've read them.

Answer 1

I could answer all of those, but its clear that it wouldnt make a difference to you anyways, you seem pretty set in being against it.


edit: but for all of those who DO actually care, ill awnser.

The first one is pretty easy, Noah and his family were the only ones who were righteous, and good people. Everyone else at the time was violent and hurtful, they were wicked to the bone, and for the safety of noah, and to get rid of the nehplim (the children of demons that came down to the earth for the women..), and to in general cleanse the earth to get it on a new start of peace, he distroyed those wicked people. Keeping them alive to just kill and torture each other was pointless, as well as putting his followers in harms way of them.

all the first born of Egypt was a plague against the pharoh, who was leader, and in charge of the lives of his people in egypt. his stubbornness against god people led him and his people to deal with the plauges, includding that last one. it was necessary for a wake up call to pharaoh, and was the final straw to elttign the isrealites go. No doubt though, the ones who died during that time, will be resurrected anyways. (john 5:28) gaining everlasting life.

the account of adam and eve, where afterwords god asked where they were could be explained a few different ways, but definetly did not mean he couldnt actually figure out where they were. first it could have been the idea of their sin allianating them from him, he was no longer close to them as he once was, and they were hidden from him in a moral stand point. or he was asking, to allow adam to be the one to make the first move and give him a chance to explain himself/repent/etc, instead of just confronting him right afterwords.

The last one can be explained with an example. Lets say a teacher is teaching his class, right? and a student stands up and says he knows a bette way to do it. would the teacher automatically send the student away and have him punished for rebeling, or disrupting the class? well no, because that would put into question the teachers right to teach, or lead the class. but if the teacher let the student show his way, and than the teacher proved after word how it was wrong, the class would understand that the only one right for teaching was the teacher. than the student could be punished for rebelling. in the same way, god allowed satan to express his ideas, so god's earthly creation and heavenly creation would both see how wrong satan's ideas were, and how afterword, god could straighten out the mess, and solve the situation of his soveirgnty forever afterword. if he killed satan instantly, it would have only showed that god might not have the right, or qualifications to rule properly. and that perhaps the rebel was right.

anything else?

Answer 2

Why did an "all-loving" God kill all of mankind and animals, only sparing Noah and his family, and the animals on the ark?

Sin has its price. Since mankind had given itself completely over to sin, all men were deserving of death. And as the rulers of the earth, humans were responsible for the lives of the animals as well. Their sins condemned ALL under their authority. Only God's Mercy permitted a single family (which was also badly polluted, as was demonstrated after the Flood) to start over with a sampling of animal life.

Why did an "all-loving" God kill all of the first-born sons of Egypt?

That was purely Pharoh's fault. God gave him every opportunity to surrender and let His People go. Pharoh's stubbornness caused those deaths, not God.

Why did an "all-knowing" God have trouble finding Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden after they ate the forbidden fruit?

He didn't. God knew all about what had happened. Have you never called your kids like that, knowing where they are, and knowing that they were up to no good?

Why did an "all-powerful" God allow Lucifer to rebel against him and not just shut him down from the beginning, thus negating the effect of evil into a Utopian world?

Satan asked a legitimate question. He asked why he should worship God, and not himself. God felt that the rest of the angels had a right to learn the answer to that question. That's why God created an area that was not Heaven for Satan to inhabit. What S. did with it was HIS problem. But the earth was created to develop replacements in Heaven for the 1/3 of the angels that followed Satan. S. didn't like the idea of being replaced, so he began interfering in the Garden. And he hasn't stopped interfering to this day.

Answer 3

1- he decided to get rid of all the badness that was going on at the time. The earth was filled with violence and perversion, up to the point where it could not be tolerated anymore. He created us, he has the right to decide whether we live or not.
2- He killed all the first born sons of Egypt as a demonstration of his power, and to show the pharaoh that he is not to be mocked and to finally liberate his people. It was not "all" the first born sons, it was those who did not heed the warning and did not cover the door posts with lamb blood. It did not matter if you were Egyptian or not, if you obeyed you would have been spared. God never destroys anyone without giving warning .
3- he did not have "trouble" finding Adam and Eve, he knew where they were, he wanted them to come out. Have you ever heard of free will?
4- Satan did not question God's power. He questions whether he had the right to govern over his creation. Destroying him only would have put into more question his authority. He has let time pass to show that mankind ruling themselves simply does not work. He will act at his appointed time, and he is giving everyone warning beforehand.

Answer 4

1. You have to realize not all humans are humans. There were nephilim children on the earth then and are still here today. They are the off spring of the fallen angels and wives they took up. They are NOT good people. These are the ones we are told to stone, kill, put to death, chase away, etc due to their evil, wickedness and fact they are not creations of G_Ds.

G_D spared Noah and his family as his gene line, blood line had not been tainted by these wicked ones.

2. G_D didn't kill the first born, that was the Egyptians and why Moses was put into the river Nile to save his life from such murders.

3. You are misled on the story of Lucifer. G_D had Lucifer as the most high angel, 2nd in charge. But G_D was tired of having beings around Him that had to praise Him for that was how they were created. G_D wanted a being that could choose to follow Him or not.

So He asked His 2nd in command to fall, to leave His grace in turn creating free will. Lucifer took the job and fell, and we know the story from there on that part.

But after Lucifer fell, He got gready past just the free will, he wanted to rule instead of G_D. So that is where the story of the Garden of Eden comes in and how Lucifer tempted woman and man to sin.

Since G_D had created a being that had free will and placed them into a perfect world, He was upset that Lucifer had done this extra deed. So G_D asked His now 2nd in comand, Michael the Arch Angel to come down as what most call Jesus to fix this error from the Garden of Eden. To die for that error to fix it.

Get past religion, bs churches teach and just actually read the book and use Strong's to define what words mean and the entire thing will make 100% sense.

If you liked playing Zelda or such games, the Bible is very similar once you get past all the garbage that has been heeped on top of it to confuses the masses.

Answer 5

The problem lies in the perception. ALL - loving (dodging the issue of God is a fire also). ALL knowing (denying the reality that sometimes God chooses not to know; especially with archetypal and epochal shaping events/women and men) and ALL powerful (missing the point that God made some laws and set up His laboratory which requires the dichotomy of good and evil).

At no point in the history of this world has it been utopian; unless maybe, by an accident of birth, you were the pharoah. For the poor dudes laboring in the desert to build his massive tombstones - I am pretty sure they did not consider it utopia !! LOL

Maranantha

Answer 6

Well, here's the thing people like you cannot be "convinced" to believe my belief no matter how this question is answered, so for you to ask this question is simply a way to cause arguments. If you really were serious about finding the real truth, you would be rewarded with it like the Bible says "God is a rewarder of those that DILLIGENTLY SEEK HIM"

That having been said I will play along with your little game here and answer the question anyway for the benefit of someone else who may actually be looking for the truth, and not arguements. Ok Question 1) God gave the people who were breaking his laws many chances to repent and turn from their wicked ways which they chose not to do. So he also sent Noah to tell them that if they didn't turn from their wicked ways (which were wrong according to the Jewish teachings a.k.a. God's god given law going on at that time that everyone knew about) that he was going to send a flood that would wipe them out. Yet after hearing the truth they still chose to go against what God said to do and do their own thing. A lot like much of humanity now does. So you have to see that God is also a God of justice. So he finally made the people pay the price for their wickedness, and unlawfulness.

Question 2) Again God warned the Pharoh's and Egyptians (who at that time were not jis chosen people and thus had no inheritance to God's love) that if they did not let his peole go he would send many plagues to them. He sent seven other plagues before that one, and they still didn't want to listen and do what was right in God's sight. So they also had to pay for their disobedience.

Question 3) See this is an example of how people like you twist things up. You have to let the Holy Spirit help you interpret the Bible correctly. God knew where they were, he just wanted them to take responsibility for their actions. He wanted them to speak up and basically "man-up" so that is why he handled it that way.

Question 4) God allowed that to happen so that he could develop another choice for man, and thus give them the free will choice to choose either life (God's way) or death lucifer's way. He could snap his fingers and make us serve him if he wanted to but he doesn't want robots, or zombies. That is not real love. He is wanting a people to love him of their own free will. But as I said, you don't want answers you want arguements. I pray for you that you would open your mind to the truth, and seriously seek to know the truth, but if you don't well that's ultimately between you and God and no one else. God Bless.

Answer 7

God created us and gave us freedom of choice. At the time before the flood The world was wicked and God decided to start over. Noah warned the people but nobody listened.

Again. God didn't kill all the firstborn, it was man who was given freedom of choice that killed the firstborn, it was evil yes.
God is not evil, but Satan is the father of lies.

In the Garden of Eden. God already knew what had happened, he just wanted to hear Adam admit his sin.

In a perfect world, there would be no choice. It is our willingness to follow him our "choice" to follow him that is important. Making the right choice because we truly love him, and want to obey him is what gives us more value to him. It would be rather like the Taliban who rule not with kindness but with brutality and force people to their way of thinking.. I don't know about you but if I was forced to a way of thinking I would resent it very much and would rebel as soon as I was given an opportunity.

Answer 8

THIS IS EASY TO ANSWER:

1-GOD WANTED TO START FROM SCRATCH AND WIPE OUT ALL TRACES OF SIN.

2-GOD WANTED PHARAOH AND ALL OF ISRAEL TO EXPERIENCE THE TRUTH BEHIND THE OFFERING OF THE FIRSTBORN OF GOD=CHRIST (COMPLICATED EXPLANATION FOR A SUBJECT WITH A DEEP BACKGROUND OF INFO).

3-ADAM + EVE WERE NOT ACTUALLY HIDDEN FROM GOD. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE WAY IN WHICH THE LITERARY TERMS OF THE LANGUAGE USED TO WRITE THE BIBLE ARE USED. IN OTHER WORDS SOME WRITTEN STATEMENTS HAVE A LITERAL MEANING WHILE OTHERS HAVE A FIGURATIVE MEANING.

4-GOD ABOVE ALL HAS GIVEN MANY FREE WILL, AND LUCIFER WAS ONE OF THESE. HE CHOSE TO BE AN ADVERSARY AGAINST GOD, UNLIKE MICHAEL AND GABRIEL, THE OTHER ARCHANGELS. GOD DID NOT MAKE LUCIFER AS A ROBOT JUST TO BLINDLY OBEY GOD.

A UTOPIAN WORLD WILL HAPPEN WHEN AFTER ALL THINGS ARE SAID AND DONE MANKIND FINALLY LEARNS ONCE3 AND FOR ALL THAT THE WAY OF SIN WILL NEVER, EVER WORK.THIS WILL TAKE REALIZING THAT ALL OF MANKIND'S MISERY AND SUFFERING WAS CAUSED BY SIN-OR DISOBEDIENCE TO GOD SINCE THE START.

Answer 9

1. The world was too wiked to be saved. He spared one family. That's very loving considering what man was doing at the time.

2.God has chosen a people. The people had been enslaved. God has to resort to that after everything else failed to liberate them.

3.He didn't have trouble. But he knew they had tried to hide themselves from him.

4. The world was cursed by sin BY GOD. Lucifer is only a tempter. Man had to make the choice. God then found that man had rebelled. He cursed the ground. He cursed the snake. He cursed the world. Earth isn't a "utopia", it's the top layer of hell.

God being described a father pretty much covers it. God has set down rules. When we break them, there are consequences. He will forgive, but we're some pretty screwed up kids.

Answer 10

The Quran says that if it will do a greater justice for the orphan or the widow,it is permissable to marry a maximum of four wives.These women must be given the same rights,privelages,respect and status before any sexual activity can occur. However the Quran also says that men cannot be fair among women so it is recommended that there should only be one wife.Sex is not a good reason to marry more than one woman.

Answer 11

God hates sin and had everyone destroyed in the flood except Noah and his family, who loved Him The Egyptians were ungodly and the Pharaoh wouldn't let Gods people go, so after several warnings, He destroyed the first born. God didn't have trouble finding Adam and Eve, he called for them wanting them to show themselves, He knew they had eaten the fruit and were afraid to come out, He used it to ask them why were you hiding. The only thing I can say about Lucifer being allowed to live is to see if we would accept God and willing choose to worship Him.