How can Jesus and God the father have two wills unless the Trinity is Polytheism ?

Question

One entity (Monotheism) cannot have two wills.

Two seperate entities (polytheism) can have two wills.

Jesus and God have two seperate entities as we all know from the famous Bible verse.

Matthew 26:39 "And going a little way forward, he fell upon his face, praying and saying: “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass away from me. Yet, not as I will, but as you will.”
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Answer 1

There is a thoery that holds God is not bound by human logic. Its hard to argue whether or not this is true, since we can't understand things except by using logic, but it also makes a kind of sense. If God is supposed to be omnipotent and omniscient, it makes sense that he could do illogical, or to us, counterintuitive things.

Interestingly enough, as much as people see Islam as a backwards and corrupt religion, the Qu'ron states that the most perfect thing Allah made was reason, and the things he did were done according to it. Contrast that to the old Christian saw that "God works in mysterious ways."

So if God is bound by, or adheres to, reason, he could not have two wills. If he is not, he could do whatever he wants; act by a set of rules that we cannot understand. This is one of the arguments made in Islam that Jesus was a prophet, but not God himself.

Answer 2

You are getting tripped up by the meanings of words. Yes God the Father has a will, so does Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Yes the Godhead is a community unto itself. What makes them one is (a) they are of the exact same Spirit. (b) they are in total harmony in thought and purpose. THAT is what makes them ONE even though they can be individuals. Also God the Father is the sole director of the Godhead which demonstrates absolute order. It is difficult for us to conceive how this can be because we are finite in our understanding. The scriptures have explained the Godhead so that we can grasp the concept if not the understanding.

Answer 3

The doctrine of the trinity is false. However, we are to worship one (mono) God... God the Father THROUGH His Son Jesus Christ.
Christ was sent by the Father to drink of the bitter cup. If we fallow Christ's teachings we know to worship the Father as He did.
However this does not mean Christ was not divine, because He was with the Father and it was He who under the direction of the Father created the universe.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Answer 4

“If you have seen the Father, you have seen Me!” Jhn 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known Me, Philip? he that hath seen Me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Or if you prefer, do you wear the hat of a son?

Do you wear the hat of the provider?

Do you wear the hat of a spouse?

And I’ll even go you one further… Do you wear the hat of a parent?

Are you the “Same” person?

God made us in His Image, He doesn’t need to lie to anyone, He has no partners in His creation… God is ONE!… He is the All and All! The Alpha and the Omega. Thank You “Lord” Jesus!

Answer 5

You know, it is often said that mathematics is a sign of intelligence. If that's true, then it should also be noted that Christianity, statistically, tends to be most prevalent in the uneducated populace.

Therefore, Christians don't know the difference between monotheism (one God), or polytheism (multiple gods). One God, three gods.. what's the difference to someone who believes in an archaic book that supports racism, genocide, ethnocentrism, and chauvinism?

Answer 6

I like this question, but you will not like many of the answers. I recently asked a question about some things I read in the bible and many of the answers I received were not pleasant or helpful. No doubt you will end up deludged with strange and aggresive answers. You won't get an actual answer as xtians will not see what you see. They will no doubt claim that their god can have 2 wills yet remain a montheistic deity as he is omnipotent, yet an omnipotent being wouldn't need to create a 'son'.
Good luck!

Answer 7

Baptise them in the Name of the Father, Son & Holy Ghost. Name is singular of three. These three witness in heaven, Father, Word & Holy Spirit & these three are one. 1Jn5. The bible writes these three are one. Jesus is the Word/bread that came down from heaven. Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I AM.". I AM that I AM is Yahweh Elohim One Yahweh. But, Jesus also was human and His was a human ministry that He was born of a virgin, Seed of the Woman, without sin nature from mans seed. So He was whole in His humanity; body, soul & spirit, like Adam was before the fall. Tempted of the serpent, didn't sin in His Humanity. So He bore our sins on the cross, and because He was without sin, raised from the dead victoreous over death. He raised up an everlasting Spirit, soul & body. And we are resurrected and standing before Jesus; we will be like Him an everlasting spirit, soul & body. This is the Trinity concept. The Creator is three in One. We are made in the image of Elohim, Father, Word & Holy Spirit. We are raised spirit, soul & body. But we are one person consisting of three parts. At the fall of the first Adam, Adam died spiritually forbidden the tree of life. Then within an age died physically. Jesus said that to see the Kingdom of God, we must be born again, born of the Spirit. The first person is born flesh & the second is born Spirit. The soul of a person never dies. Only the body & spirit dies. But when one is born again, the spiritual birth blends withig the soul in the corruptable body. And the corruptable body will metomorph into a new everlasting body. That is when we stand before God whole; spirit, soul & body.

Answer 8

The Trinity IS Polytheism.

Answer 9

when we search he word of god we can find thatJesus always asked for the complete will of God, He even told that my food is to do the will of God. here in this place Jesus is not trying to have another will so that it will cause him to be seperated from the oneness of GOD, Jesus prays to stay in the perfect will of His father. Please dont get in to confusion by twisting the Holy Word since god of peace will sent dillusion to such people of similar thoughts

Answer 10

O people of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion:
nor say of Allah aught but truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary
was (no more than) an Apostle of Allah and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Apostles. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is One Allah: glory be to him: (for Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs [Nisaa 4:171]

"And behold! Allah will say "O Jesus the son of Mary! didst thou say unto men `worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah"? He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart though I know not what is in Yours. For You know in full all that is hidden" [Al-Maidah 5:116]

They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a
Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not
from their word (of blasphemy) verily a grievous penalty will
befall the blasphemers among them [Al-Maidah 5:73]

Though the Protestant world does not deify Mary (alayhas salam, or peace be upon her), some of the the early Churches did, and so does the Catholic World till today as it confers divinity on her. The above verse of the Qur'an negates this deification of Mary by some sectors of Christianity. Hence Prophet Muhammad , was responding to this wrong belief of some Christians who were present during his time and who still exist today. Trinity was neither preached nor practiced by Jesus, alayhis salam; he preached the oneness of God. It is impossible to take three things that create 3 different mental pictures and to make them one.

Mark|12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? [Mark 12: 28]

Mark|12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Mark|12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.