If nobody is perfect except God, then God is perfection, then for him to also be the Creator...(continued)?

Question

He would have to create non-perfection, as perfection has already been created in Himself (creating perfection wouldn't be a challenge, He would be recreating, or cloning Himself), so in creating humans, He has created imperfection, as humans are capable of committing sins, so in reality, God, himself, has created sin.
But, we are not to commit sins, or at least we have to seek redemption for them through Confession or other (depending on your particular religion). In conclusion, sins are God's creation, but we are to refrain from committing them. Which brings me to my question- is life one big test?

Also, if you disagree with God being the creator of sins or the Creator in general, I'd like to hear your argument as well.

After reading the first 20 answers, I've noticed a lot of you are going with the Adam and Eve reference. I didn't mean this question to focus entirely on Christianity. I am asking a broader question that covers all religions that believe in God (most religions believe in one supreme power).
In response to the Adam and Eve story, I am aware of the story. Didn't God create the tree with the apples? Maybe I'm mistaken; I'd appreciate some verification.

Answer 1

The Bible describes God as holy (Isaiah 6:3), righteous (Psalm 7:11), just (Deuteronomy 32:4), and sovereign (Daniel 4:17-25). These attributes tell us the following about God: (1) God is capable of preventing evil, and (2) God desires to rid the universe of evil. So, if both of these are true, why does God allow evil? If God has the power to prevent evil, and desires to prevent evil, why does He not prevent evil? Perhaps a good way to look at this issue would be to consider some alternative situations for how people might have God run the world:

1) God could change everyone’s personality so that they cannot sin. This would also mean that we would not have a free will. We would not be able to choose right or wrong because we would be “programmed” to only do right. Had God chosen to do this, there would be no meaningful relationships between Him and His creation.

Instead, God made Adam and Eve innocent but with the ability to choose good or evil. In doing so, they could respond to His love and trust Him or choose to do their own thing. They chose to do their own thing. Because we live in a real world where we can choose our actions but not their consequences, their sin affected those who came after them (us). Similarly, our decisions to sin have an impact on us, and those around us.

2) Another choice would have God compensating for people’s evil actions through supernatural intervention 100% of the time. For instance, if a drunk driver causes an automobile accident, God would have to keep him and the people in the other automobile from getting harmed, for there would be many people who could possibly be caused to suffer from the accident or the death / injury of those involved in the accident. God would have to keep the drunk driver from crashing into power lines, buildings, etc. because these things would cause innocent people to suffer.

Another instance might involve a lazy person plumbing a house, and he doesn’t bother to check the plumbing for leaks before the house is finished. God would have to make the plumbing not leak because otherwise the home buyers would have to suffer for the lazy person’s sin.

If a father gets addicted to drugs and spends all of his money on drugs, God would somehow have to miraculously provide both the food and the social needs of the children so that they would not have to be adversely affected by the evil of the parent.

In such a world, God would be like a bad parent who enables a wayward child’s destructive behavior. There would be no consequences for one’s actions, and as a result no one would learn integrity, purity, honor, responsibility, or self-control. There would be no “good consequences” for right behavior, no “bad consequences” for wrong behavior. What would people become except more deviant and sinful?

3) Another choice would be for God to judge and remove those who choose to commit evil acts. The problem with this possibility is that there would be no one left, for God would have to remove us all. We all sin and commit evil acts (Romans 3:23; Ecclesiastes 7:20; 1 John 1:8). While some people are more evil than others, where would God draw the line? Ultimately, all evil causes harm to others.

Instead of these or other options, God has chosen to create a “real” world in which real choices have real consequences. In this real world of ours, our actions affect others. Because of Adam’s choice to sin, the world now lives under the curse, and we are all born with a sin nature (Romans 5:12). There will one day come a time when God will judge the sin in this world and make all things new, but He is purposely “delaying” in order to allow more time for people to repent so that He will not need to judge them (2 Peter 3:9). Until then He IS concerned about evil. When He created the Old Testament Laws, He established laws that discourage and punish evil. He judged nations and kings who disregard justice and pursue evil. Likewise in the New Testament, God states that it is the government’s responsibility to provide justice in order to protect the innocent from evil (Romans 13). He also promises severe consequences for those who commit evil acts, especially on the "innocent" (Mark 9:36-42).

In summary, we live in a real world where our good and evil actions have direct consequences and indirect consequences upon us and those around us. God’s desire is that for all of our sakes we would obey Him that it might be well with us (Deuteronomy 5:29). Instead, what happens is that we choose our own way and then we blame God for not doing anything about it. Such is the heart of sinful man. But Jesus came to change men’s hearts through the power of the Holy Spirit. So He is able to do for those who will turn from evil and call on Jesus to save them from their sin and its consequences (2 Corinthians 5:17). God does prevent and restrain some acts of evil. This world would be MUCH WORSE were not God restraining evil. At the same time, God has given us the ability to choose good and evil, and when we choose evil, He allows us, and those around us, to suffer the consequences of evil. Rather than blaming God and questioning God for why He does not prevent all evil - we should be about the business of proclaiming the cure for evil and its consequences - Jesus Christ!

Recommended Resource: Deliver Us from Evil: Restoring the Soul in a Disintegrating Culture by Ravi Zacharias.

Answer 2

I'm an atheist, but not a rabid one, and if, for the sake of argument, there was a god, this is how I think he (she, it?) would be thinking.
If your going to create life and give it free will, the only way to stop the exercise becoming a moot one is to give it complete free will, and remove any knowledge of your existence from it's life (knowing something and believing are two different things). That means you have to allow people to do evil things- the alternative is revealing your existence to your creation-this might make everyone be nice to each other, but it won't mean anything as they will only be performing good deeds because they know for a fact they'll pay for it if they don't, rather than choosing to perform good deeds for their own merit. You might even find that your creations stop doing anything altogether,as the knowledge that theres an entity out there that can do anything you can do infinitely better is rather demotivating to say the least
Whether you believe in God or not, it's best to view life as a challenge rather than a test.

Answer 3

NOW LOOK, My bible says, and it is written, Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. YOU need to know that it means his creation was perfect! Sorry YOUR conclusion lacks knowledge. God gave Adam freedom of choice, READ FOR YOURSELF Gen 1thru3 Best you read Isaiah 14:12-15 and Ezekiel 28:12b-19 ! There is no argument because you have spoken wiht NO knowledge of scripture whereas you may have lied on GOD, remember you said those things AFTER READING, do you want to argue that SATAN was not the creater/orginator of sin? I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR REPLY.

Answer 4

First of all let me express what sin is. Sin is not want the world considers "I just di a bad thing" sin is the world given to a rebellious act against God and his teachings, also God created man as a companion and to perfect this he gave man free will so that we God spoke to man he/she could respond with intelligence and not just be a slave and agree all the time, even though God is always right. Furthermore sin was created by Satan since he was the originator of rebellious acts. Yes God did created Satan, and knew that he would rebel, but he also knew Satan could not when.

Another thing to keep in mind is the God is love, his love is perfect and he allowed us to make the decision to rebel or come to him, sin or be righteuos, because he want us to come to him freely and love him freely as he does all u of. Also another point Hell was not created for man kind it is th home designated for Satan and the fallen Angels, however, we chose to rebel against God and return WE CHOOSE hell over heaven; But God sent Jesus to die for our sins and to defeat death so that we can once again live in perfect harmony with God in the end. I hope that answer you question if you want to know more email: [e-mail]

Answer 5

Gods word is infallible. I've never heard the term "Perfect God" The idea that God, perfect or not could "ONLY" create something, as if that was the only thing He could do, is just madness. Yes God could create perfection, if that's what He intended to do. One can create anything and call it perfect, however once you give that creation the ability to think for itself (free will) perfection fades quickly.

Answer 6

Did he create imperfection or was it just cause and effect. Do you realize imperfection because of comparing yourself to perfection? Its comparable to if nothing existed at all no planets no nothing it would still be dark, because darkness is the absence of light. No source of origin for darkness like there is for light. So if darkness is imperfection and light is perfection you only realize imperfection because of the presence of perfection or light. Did light create the dark or do you only realize its "dark" because you have seen the light. Now dark and light here arent biblical references or me trying to be funny, more of a space and physics thing because Im into math and science (Physics!). I am also a Christian but I in no way try and force my beliefs on anyone. It just seemed like an interesting topic and a good logic question, lol. Hope I gave you something to think about.

Answer 7

God is not perfect as he has committed sins himself. He has lied through The Bible, his own spoken words, by making certain statements that are proven to be completely wrong. Some examples of this include, but are not limited to, geocentricism, creationism, and the dating of the universe as younger than 10,000 years.

According to god, lying is a sin. He is a sinner himself and therefore he is not perfect. This produces the possibility of him not existing as not all imperfect beings are able to create the universe and so far none has been found to be able to.

Answer 8

I believe that God created sin, but indirectly, remember the tree of good and the tree of evil. He made those trees but thats where sin lied. However we were made in the image and likeness of God but like you say God is Perfect so therefore sin would have had to enter us after the first being was created, the fruit!!

Answer 9

Yes, God is the creator of all- even Satan. Satan was once an angel who tried to overcome God himself and was thrown out of heaven, who walks the earth trying to enforce as much sin and pain possible. God created him, satan had a choice just like we do and he decided to not follow God and before this all was perfect but since God granted Satan self-will he chose to sin and just like the world today. We all have a choice to sin or not to sin. Sin is our way of telling God to go away, and Hell is his way of saying OK... This causing hell's population to quad-triple...

Answer 10

If you read Genesis 1. It writes God created ... and it was good. Good is perfection.

It is written that Elohim (God) said, "Let us make man in our image.". In the Image of God was man made. Man & woman did God make them. Man was perfect. The sin happened when the dragon serpent tempted them to eat of the forbidden fruit & disobey God. Sin is the perversion of what is suppose to be good & perfect.

It is written that to not lett anyone say that God tempts me to sin (disobey Gods Word) God doesn't tempt anyone to sin. The devil does. And the devil got away with it too much & that is why he is called the god of this age or the god of the children of rebellion. This god, the devil is the one who tempts us to sin by tempting our flesh to do something that is disobedient to God.

Answer 11

actualy the first sin was when lucifer got proud and wanted to be God so he rebelled against God. however with humans.....God made humans with free will. to give us actual free will we had to have the ability to go against what God said so he put the tree of the knowladge of good and evil in the arden and said not to touch it. but we did and went againts God. that was the action that let sin into the world. we did it. Not God.