I contacted the United Nations directly and they confirmed that the Watchtower did indeed agree to the United Nations Charter every year for a decade. They agreed to support war activity.
2007-08-27
14:20:06
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The Jehovahs Witness trolls who have replied here demonstrate the level of intelligence of the toilet cleaners and floor sweepers who make up the cult. No substance, no answer, just fling mud.
2007-08-27
15:33:20 ·
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By the way, "conundrum" (obviously a JW) posted the same kind of crud on other questions regarding the Watchtower idol that he worships.
2007-08-27
15:35:01 ·
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As far as proof that is asked for, there were so many inquiries at the UN that the UN was forced to put it up on their official website. Go search and see. also, I have documents from them as well as the personal correspondance between the reporter who broke the story (Mr. S. Bates THE GUARDIAN UK) and the Watchtower representative who was really angry that it got out. It's a cool read.
2007-08-27
23:20:46 ·
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"achtung_heiss" makes the point that Watchtower was hypoctical, while they were aligned with the UN secretly, they publically denounced same. Thanks for that contribution "achtung_heiss".
As well, "achtung_heiss", you spend a great deal of time in your feeble attempts to defend Watchtower. It's obviously your idol.
2007-08-28
08:31:54 ·
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I would like to add that I am going to post the private correspondence between the Watchtower representative PG and the reporter that broke the story SB on another question thread.
Eat that.
2007-08-28
08:34:14 ·
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"Jason" complains. Why doesn't "Jason" go read the Bible (Rev. 10:8) and learn about eating information.
2007-08-28
10:32:01 ·
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"Seasoned with Salt" did a cut & paste right from Watchtower. He/she is obviously a deluded JW who will defend to the last, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. The sentences he/she posted are complete fabrications. The United Nations can and WILL verify that. For more correct information about this topic it is necessary to check sources other than Watchtower or her minions who post here. See Wikipedia.org One link it offers I copy here. http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness1.htm#un
Information available from the UN directly. http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf
Don't believe what Watchtower or her blind faithful will tell you, do your homework and see the truth.
2007-08-29
09:16:29 ·
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"trk" is also quite deluded. No chance that poster will ever offer anything of value.
2007-08-29
09:20:06 ·
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So many people here who are "new to the truth" or just studying do not understand how the Organization of JWs has bastardized and lambasted the UN for so long.. calling it the "Beast" and the churches who support it "Harlot"... and oh the imagery in their publications...
this is why Jehovah's Witnesses who have some time under their belts were in such an uproar over the Guardian's story. Here was absolute proof their beloved Organization was involving herself in the very same thing she'd for years ripped on other religions about, in essence, becoming the Harlot right along with the rest of them. Many, many letters poured into the Society's headquarters demanding answers. The rank and file was outraged that their pure society, who demanded so much from them in their personal lives, was living a lie by their involvement in the UN. and such a huge lie, at that.. you just can't understand unless you were involved for a long time early on.. just how hated the UN was to the JWs.. their literature ripped at it every chance it got.. so this was BIG.
but it's very true the Society knew just what they were doing when they became involved as an NGO because to do so, you must absolutely know the rules or the organization is not allowed to join. (Part of those rules are that the organization that joins must support the mission of the UN!) there is also a yearly renewal process, where they make sure the organization that's joined is living up to the agreement. The Society of JWs knew exactly what it was doing when it was joining the UN, they're not stupid, don't let them try to fool you and say "we didn't realize." there is not one thing they do that isn't well orchestrated from the top down.
Why would they do such a thing? for legitimacy, perhaps? to gain leverage in countries where their teaching is forbidden? But they've asked brothers to DIE to preach the word, to not get ID cards that would've lightened their load, prevented them from being macheted to death.. and here they are, joining the UN????? It's difficult to express the shock and outrage and no one who hasn't been a JW can ever understand how hard this is to stomach..
I sense you're a little outraged, too, as every JW who's answered here should be, as well.
Edit: As for the JW posters here who say they joined just to use the UN library and facilities, well, the average JW who wants to join the YMCA to use the gym is forbidden because it's "involving themself in false religion." it's the same thing. The WBTS has involved itself in heresy by joining just to use the facilities of the UN, like any JW would do by joining the YMCA to use the treadmill. same thing.
of course, it's natural for a currently involved JW to want so very much to believe it's ok.. because for it not to be ok would rip at the foundation of their belief system. Hence you find all the justifying above.
2007-08-29 03:02:16
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1. The original application on file did not require a signature, which seems to indicate, or at least gives the perception, that the application for NGO status was merely a formality.
2. The registration papers filed with the UN contained no statements that conflict with our Christian beliefs.
3. NGO status was necessary to gain access to some facilities, documents, and publications.
4. NGOs are informed that "association of NGOs with the DPI does not constitute their incorporation into the UN system, nor does it entitle associated organizations or their staff to any kind of privileges, immunities or special status."
5. There was a changed relationship between the UN and NGOs. The applications, forms, and brochures of the UN also changed to reflect that fact.
6. When the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society realized that the revised document had language that said NGOs would support the UN, etc., they immediately withdrew membership.
There is no cover-up. The truth is that opposers are misrepresenting the facts of the matter.
2007-08-28 20:51:47
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Judging by the "likes" for the feeble Watchtower defenders, I'd say Watchtower minions galore have come here trying to defend their weak and feeble god ....WATCHTOWER
2016-08-17 12:31:33
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show us your proof, and we might have something to discuss. but, if you are right, how come, during the Vietnam war, most concientious objectors in American prisons were J.W.'s? and why were they one of the few religious groups persecuted by the Nazi regime in WW11? these are matters of record . i have several good friends who are J.W.'s, as were both parents, and i happen to know a bit about what they believe. but if the WTBTS has a hidden agenda, you can be darn sure i want to see the proof. you dont have to agree with anyone, but that gives you no right to spread lies, either.
2007-08-27 16:06:55
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I believe Seasoned with Salt answered your question quite well and honestly. But of course your not happy with the truth...
2007-08-29 03:25:40
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Eat that??? That was really a Christ like comment.
Do you know what it means to be a Christian? I couldn't picture Jesus saying eat that after making a point. Jesus said you would recognize true followers by their fruit. Also remember what the Apostle Paul said, if you don't have LOVE YOU ARE NOTHING. We will pray for you.
2007-08-28 09:46:22
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The hearsay of this questioner seems somewhat less than convincing. Please consider reviewing the facts of this so-called "controversy" (including actual images of the documents involved).
http://jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/
Interestingly, the remarkable conspiracy theories of anti-Witness critics fail to explain any possible benefit to Jehovah's Witnesses from their "alliance" with the United Nations. Before, during, and since the supposed "alliance", Jehovah's Witnesses continued to publicly denounce the ungodly nature of the UN. Before, during, and since the supposed "alliance", Jehovah's Witnesses continued to be widely persecuted in dozens of countries. Before, during, and since the supposed "alliance", the UN continued to be consistently unsympathetic to religious persecution.
Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/20010201/article_02.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/lmn/index.htm?article=article_10.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20011015/article_02.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/rq/index.htm?article=article_06.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/dg/index.htm?article=article_08.htm
http://jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/
2007-08-28 07:06:00
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Right, and I have some swamp property thats just ripe for Building Condo's on.
2007-08-27 14:28:53
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I have a bridge to sell, IN Brooklyn N.Y. Cheep!!! Wanna BUY?????????????????
2007-08-27 14:31:51
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I love questions that get the jw's all worked up!
2007-08-28 05:51:48
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