For those who don't believe in god or any Gods: do you think the Holocaust was good, bad, or?

Question

just part of the evolutionary process, and therefore neither good nor bad. I ask because I saw an atheist on yahoo answers say something to the effect that the Holocaust could be either good or bad depending on your view of reality and saw that he got some votes up, and don't remember seeing any votes down.

I'm curious as to how many of you agree or don't agree with him.

It's a survey, not trying to trap you.

Also, I almost forgot to say, to the non-Christians who replied to an emailed saying in part of my messages that you were dumb, stupid, idiots, morons or retards, sorry. I remembered certain verses in the Bible wrong which I thought permitted me to say such things, but the month I took it up I sensed something wasn't right and reread the verses yesterday, and found I was wrong to say such things. Okay? But anyways, please answer my question.

Answer 1

From what I've seen, morality is subjective. While it is possible for someone to say that the Holocaust was good, I strongly disagree. Not murdering innocent people is a moral value shared by so many people that I feel that it should be enforced by international law. Hence I believe the holocaust was wrong, I believe what's happening in Darfur is wrong. I believe that what happened in Rwanda was wrong.

I believe them to be wrong for the reasons you'll find by reading about Humanist philosophy.
I believe it was wrong even if the people responsible thought they were doing their leader's will. I would believe it wrong even if the people doing it believed they were doing god's will. This is where you and I probably differ.

For instance, If I read a story about one tribe killing the members of another tribe except the children and then their god orders them to kill all the male children and kill all the female children without intact hymens I am disgusted by the barbarity. Christians and Jews see the guiding hand of a loving god in that. They sicken me. I won't pull any punches, I'm not in the mood. Such moral degradation angers and disgusts me. If you have any moral code you condemn the events of Numbers 31:7-18. If you justify them then you are no better than someone who considers the holocaust good.

Oh, as for evolution, that's biology. Death is part of biology. Evolution is part of biology. They don't determine what is morally right or morally wrong. Moral values are subjective, not biologically determined. Evolution describes what happens, not what necessarily should happen.

Answer 2

I saw this question when looking at the profile of someone I respect, or I would never, never be in this section. You received many excellent answers.
It's rather "curious" that you're taking a "survey" based on an answer from an Atheist. Perhaps you're fixated on some convoluted perception that people who do not believe in gods have no moral compass.
Additionally, you should have known you were wrong to have said such things without being alerted. A bit late to say sorry. You appear to think of yourself as a literate, intelligent person; how you could consider you were "permitted" to be so rude is incomprehensible, & probably untrue.
That is all I have to say on this ludicrous question.

Answer 3

I am a firm believer in the Bible, not necessarily a Christian. But the Holocaust was not good or part of the evolutionary process. It was a crime. No sane person can see the suffering and deaths of millions of people and say that it was good. It needs to be punished, and it needs to be stopped.

Also, for those smartalics thinking that Jews can be killed because they're dumb or something, consider these two facts:
1) 80% of Israelites do not even believe in God.
2) The United States is paying Israel to train the best of the best of the Marines and Special Forces, meaning that Israel is good for at least one thing.

Answer 4

Here's a dollar . . . buy a clue!

Besides, genocide does not result in evolutionary change. You Christians should have learned that when you tried it during the Crusades or the Spanish Inquisition, or . . .

By the way, why didn't the "Christians" stop the holocaust? I can see how the atheist could say that it might be viewed by some as good, since the entire Catholic church allowed it to happen without protest. And the church would never ignore something of that magnitude without protest if they thought it was bad.

The holocaust was a horrific act, and a blight on all humanity. The most horrific part of it, is that someone thought it was the right thing to do, or it wouldn't have happened. And failure to acknowledge the truth of that ugly fact is failure to stop it from happening again.

Answer 5

You have to be a little dense to ask such a ridiculous question.

Mass murder is wrong. Murder is wrong.

Why would you ask such a question, do you think somehow Atheists think its OK. Get your head out of the Big Book of Myths and Legends and into a real book or two. You may become a little more enlightened.

Evolution is the theory on how life evolved on this planet, it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the holocaust.

Answer 6

I agree on the atheist's answer. It depends on what side you are on. You see, we still can't deny this but there are still those people (even today) who still think that what the Nazi had done was either good or that it is a necessary evil.

Since I assume that you are a Christian and I assume that you read your Bible...well as an example, You cannot say that when your God commanded Joshua to kill all the inhabitants of Jericho or Ai that it was a barbaric, inhuman act. But non-believers judge your god as barbaric as Hitler. The same goes to the issue of the Holocaust. When you have the same thinking of those who sympathized with the Nazi, you will not judge the event as bad.

Now personally speaking (as an atheist myself). I find the event as a gross violation of human rights. I base my standards in the United Nation charter so in my standard, it was an evil act.

Answer 7

Well You leave God and Bible out; How can Man that walks on this planet for a few yrs;
A span of 70 yrs life, sleeps 20 yrs of that;Can"t see the future, and doesn"t accept the past,Is incapable of making a true Evaluation of Good.
One Person"s Good may be Bad to someone else;And Everyone did what was Good in their own Eyes;Judges ch 21:25

Answer 8

I've heard a lot of christia integralist preachers saying olocaust was the wiil of the lord, for eliminating gays, jews and company.
Being atheist does not equals to being without a moral.
Plus evolution is neither good or bad: if a superhuman race was to surface right now to exterminate lesser humans, I would not call it an improvement. Not for me, at least.
And to the idiot who said "it is good because it is evolution"
I would like to say that evolution is not a mejorative process, but an adaptive one: we are not more evolved than a fish, just evolved differently.

Answer 9

I think it was horrific. Whether there's a god or gods doesn't affect that.

To me, such an event seems worse if there is any higher power out there or up there. If the HP can't wake from its millennial nap to reach down and stop such a desperate situation, what does that say about god(s)?

Answer 10

"night" grow to be a powerful e book. have you ever examine "daybreak" and "the accident" (portion of the night Trilogy)? The Holocaust isn't picturesque of an evil and depraved God, yet of the evils of mankind. Evil men claimed to appreciate God, yet perverted the gospel to slot in step with their bigotry, prejudice and hatred in direction of all of us in contrast to themselves. Had any of the Nazi's actual examine the Bible, then they wouldve general that the Jews are God's chosen people. however the Holocaust isn't the 1st time that evil men tried to irradicate the Jewish people from the Face of the Earth. (examine the e book of Esther); God exists, and he's stable. yet mankind additionally exists, and mankind is able to all varieties of evil. There are Jewish people of whom Love God with all of thier hearts; might you pose them the comparable question? i'm particular they might additionally no longer understand how such evil grow to be achieveable, yet that incident (the holocaust) is a mirrored photograph of the evils that mankind is achieveable of and a mirrored photograph of the horror of what hatred does. i'm particular God's coronary heart broke for his people in the process the Holocaust, yet such men that brought about it (Nazis) have been given what they deserve. And such is the final destiny of all those that detest. Blame those responsible, do no longer blame God. ?