The bible explains acts such as stoning as suitable punishment for crimes. Yes it says something about he who has not sinned cast the first stone, but theoretically, stoning was a form of punishment.
Well now a days it's not acceptable based on things such as ethics and humane treatment. Thus, we would not uphold the bible as 100% truth because we no longer use stoning by non sinners (such as innocent children or machines) as a form of punishment.
If the idea was infact a metaphor to teach a lesson then the bible being 100% truth is still valid.
which leads me to my question
If evolution is a theory proposed and accepted today by science, why is it wrong to accept it? What if creation was just a metaphor instead of something literal? If you accept it as literal, then why not accept stoning as legitimate punishment?
If nobody is telling you to deny your faith in god and the morals he teaches, what is so wrong with believing in the science of evolution instead of a story in a book?
2007-08-27
12:10:31
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-whether the bible is true or not, it is being told as a story of sorts
-if god created the process of evolution (which we see as a theory) then he has in fact created everything thus creation may not be literal
-the question was to show that the bible can be 100% true if things are taken as metaphors and not literally. The importance of the stories would be the morals in which they intend to teach and spread.
-not having it both ways at the same time is what makes everyone wrong. IE if you can't open your mind to possibilities you will always be ignorant to the other sides and deluded into thinking that only you are correct.
-having any form of punishment now a days shows the uselessness of christ for sin atonement. unless that story was to teach us that if someone would die for our sins, we should feel remorse for commiting them to begin with.
- acceptance of violent acts seen as equal exchange for crimes could be considered ethical. changing standards of acceptance governs ethics
2007-08-27
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Actually, your analysis actually goes a long way toward proving that the bible was never true to begin with. Stoning was never an ethical and humane treatment. Not in biblical days. Not now. So if the bible is the same today is it was then, then it follows that it was bunk then and is therefore still bunk. Never was ethically and humanely valid, is not now and will never be.
We don't accept evolution literally. Evolution is a science that investigates and examines evidence for a common theory for the ascension of the species. There is nothing to take literally. Nothing to believe. Simply something to study and form a sense of how plausible you consider the explanations that the theory poses. In my view, the theory is highly plausible. And creation and the bible highly implausible. Not impossible. Highly implausible.
2007-08-27 12:29:44
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answered by Anonymous
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The idea that god created the world through evolution is not a new one and there are certain problems with it.
1. From the science side, there still no evidence or indication that an outside force intervened in evolution; so as we now understand it, no sign of god nor does it appear that a god was needed.
2. From a biblical perspective, god would have gained *huge* points if the creation story even partially matched the facts. Imagine reading "God caused tiny creatures to be, he changed them and thus new creatures came to be. Many creature did he change into others and did pass until man was formed."
3. Genesis is not presented as metaphorical and even if it is, the indications are that god doesn't think man can handle the truth about creation or that he intended man to be mislead by the fossil record. Either idea is extremely distasteful.
4. There also then is the problem of "Original Sin" and blood sacrifice; without those the sacrifice of his son is not needed, nor are any of the less important but still mandatory sacrifices.
This are some of the more important points, but many more could be added to the list.
2007-08-27 12:41:13
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answered by Pirate AM™ 7
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this is why the bible is such a big issue. If the bible is the word of god and god is perfect then the bible is perfect. But things like stoning and torture are very cruel and can't be applicable to today's society, therefore if society bans that kind of violence out of the perfect book then doesn't that mean the bible isn't perfect and it should not apply to people now? If people follow the bible then they must follow every word it says in there because this is god's word, so that means stoning people as punishment. Do you believe that stoning people is a legitimate punishment or cruelty to a human being?
2007-08-27 12:28:11
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answered by supraman126 4
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The Bible is 100% accurate. Stoning was a form of punishment back then. In other words, it had to do with custom. Just like we dont dress as people in Bible times because custom is not the same, we dont stone any longer. So no, it wasnt necessarily metaphorical then, but it can still be applied to us with our forms of punishment because we do not stone for punishment.
Evolution is just what you called it. Its a THEORY. Evolution is mentioned nowhere in the Bible. You really cant use the stoning process as fuel for accepting evolution. Stoning was a custom. Evolution was not. Creation is pretty clear as to being real. Its very specific. Besides the fact that there is so much evidence against evolution, why would God try to teach us something metaphorical about the creation of man and all inhabitants? You believed there was stoning in Bible times right? Why would that be contradicted? So if you dont believe in Creation, then the fact is there are many parts of the Bible you can choose not to believe in..........like salvation of man, the virgin birth of Christ, Christ's resurrection. Then the Bible wouldnt be accurrate period, because if its not accurate in its entirety how could it be accurate at all?
So yah evolution is NOT true, stoning existed, and the Bible is 100% accurate.
2007-08-27 12:29:55
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answered by Libby McBride 2
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The Bible dictated occurrences of the times and for it to be 100% true must take 100% belief. As for the stoning as punishment, that type of corrective measure is still happening in regions where communications are limited or restricted. And some religions still maim body parts for certain crimes.
2007-08-27 12:26:36
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answered by My Final Answer 3
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As a non-christian, I'm offended by your ignorance. The story was that a woman who commited adultery was brought before jesus. The men who brought her wanted her to be stoned. Jesus said (according to the bible) "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". It's a metaphor for why we should refrain from casting judgement on others, being that none of us are perfect and we all do things we shouldn't. This is what people don't understand. The bible isn't true, but its metaphors can shine a light of truth on leading a good life.
2007-08-27 12:20:40
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answered by Anonymous
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I have a somewhat different perspective on the message behind God's instructions regarding stoning.
The way I see it, those "laws" were enacted at a time when man was frantically trying to find yet another way to avoid personal responsibility for making decisions about right and wrong. Give us laws so we can understand what to do and what not to do...give us kings who can talk directly to God and then tell us what is right and what is wrong...give us judges who can interpret all these laws and hand out punishments to make sure everyone obeys...that's a pretty consistent theme of the bible!!!
God's basic instructions never changed...he wanted people to choose to follow his basic instructions: love God and love one another...even the 10 commandments can be divided up under these two essential commands. ...but the people wanted to make up their own minds (just like Adam and Eve did and just like every other person in the bible wanted to do)...they just didn't want to pay the consequences when they made a mistake. They begged for more laws and God gave them to them only after warning them that those laws wouldn't solve the problem (that they wouldn't be able to keep the more specific laws any more than they were able to keep the simpler ones)!
Stoning wasn't God's idea, it was man's idea...not unlike the idea of the electric chair. They wanted a way to motivate people to obey the laws. They believed that using stoning and other capital and corporal punishment as a deterrent force would decrease the likelihood of disobedience to the law (and to God, in their minds at least)!
They were obviously wrong or Jesus wouldn't have been necessary. He advocated elimination of the old stoning laws in favor of a return to God's original plan...love God and love one another. If people could follow those simple instructions, no other laws would be necessary and if no laws were necessary, no punishments would be necessary. He (Jesus) took the punishment for all the sins of the world (past, present and future) and taught that we should focus on living our own life in love and leave the rest of the world to him.
It wasn't a metaphor to to teach a lesson, it was an actual living experiment designed to teach people that their understanding of what would and wouldn't work was flawed and that God's original way was the best.
...and I do believe in the science of evolution...what I don't believe in is the philosophy of evolution.
2007-08-27 12:50:14
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answered by KAL 7
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1) My biology teacher was openly an atheist and said since Evolution is a fact the entire Bible is wrong............... so it seems evolution is used more for indoctrination rather then academic teaching. Evolution, if true, should be used for things like medicine, not for things like books called "The God Delusion". With all the advances in science, atheists are glad to use it against Christians..... I think it should not be used to combat religion, but to combat disease. Sadly though atheists consider religion to be a disease, which is really sad.
As to stoning, it is null because we are judged by whether we atone through Christ or not. The sacrifice of Christ takes the place of all the punishments and cleansing required by the Old Testament. If the Old Testament was meant to be mandatory, then Christ would be useless.
2007-08-27 12:22:39
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answered by Anonymous
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It's all about balance. Achieving a balance with spirituality and facts. The tough part for many is incorporating this into their spirituality AND religion. In failing to to do so, they aren't seeing the "Big Picture".
2007-08-27 12:19:14
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answered by Soul Shaper 5
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2016-10-03 08:03:20
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answered by ? 4
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