With current immigration and birthrate trends, will the Netherlands exist as a Western democracy in 25 years?

Question

Thomas M.: do you really think with a population of 16.5 million in an area a little over the size of Maryland, your comparison is valid?

Look people, I'll try this once more. I'm trying to initiate a conversation on demographics and social change in Europe. Using American states/cities as some sort of foil or bulwark for your thoughts is not going to work. The scale of integration and homogeny in America is simply to great to allow for meaningful comparison.Contrast the European model where national identity, birth-rates and immigration policies can all be observed in a magnified social lens. Certainly the EU is drawing nation-states closer together, but the analogy to America would be closer to the period under the Articles of Confederation before the current constitution. And maybe European trends will ultimately be seen in America. If they are, the time scale is too far off to be reasonably considered. OK? May we continue?

Tyler, put down the crack pipe, step slowly away from the keyboard.

Answer 1

I was in Holland 3 years ago and I'm convinced that time for the land of Tulips and windmills to become the land of Mosques and guns is rapidly approaching.

Sadly, Europe is becoming a major player in the formulation of the expansion of Islam and losing their culture in their blind ignorance and trust.

Answer 2

People said the same thing about Catholic immigration to the United States around the turn of the century, and it didn't lead to any real problems.

REPLY:

I actually lived there for a few years, part of the time in a mostly Turkish neighborhood. The Turkish immigrants, at least were very good neighbors. The only sentiment I ever heard from any of them that was anti-Dutch in any way was that Belgium was a much nicer place to live because the cost of living was lower.

I'm told the Moroccan community is less "Western", but I didn't really get to know any Moroccans apart from some people who ran a nice restaurant I went to several times.

REPLY 2:

There is a myth that there never was immigration in Europe until the modern age. People have been moving from country to country within Europe for centuries. Europe isn't as much of a melting pot as the USA, but there is a very long tradition of mobility.

Answer 3

Will any of Europe? Although I think that 25 years is a little soon. I expect the whole thing to be over in 100.

Answer 4

The Netherlands, France and Britian will be part of the new Islamist States of Europe. They opened the door with their way too wide open policies and now and in the future they are paying the price.

Answer 5

You see, is Maryland still a western democracy?
Is Europe a western democracy well Netherland belongs to the EU, Buddy. And damn will be in 25 years.

On another note:

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Answer 6

Of course. When the government realizes that the population is dwindling they will have to do something.

Answer 7

Not sure how long it will take to destroy western civilization, but we are well on our way.