what makes you believe that morals came from judeo/christianity religions?

Question

Morals are not a thing created by religion, but are really just the idea of, would i want it done to me, than i wont do it to you.
So what makes people so sure that the judeo/christian relgions created morals? i mean we can all see that the pious flout all moral obligations by saying they are justified in their depridations by god? IE Priests molesting children, holy inquisition, need i go on?

just to let those who think im bashing know, i truly am curious. i use the judeo/christian example because i saw it on another question, posted by a responder, as such. i wonder where morals came from, but at the same time exhibit my own morals with out needing to be taught by a theism what morals are. The one Thing i think is right is the golden rule, and knowing religion, it probably encorporated that from an earlier form of religion, back to the basis of human acknowledgemnt of our own consiousness.

Answer 1

I saw that quote too. As a Jew, I happily acknowledge that my religion didn't "start" morality. There were ethical humans around long before Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And if being Jewish or Christian (or Muslim) automatically made you moral, well, we wouldn't have had many of the problems in our history caused by individual Jews, Christians and Muslims.

Answer 2

If everyone followed Jesus example they would be moral. I am, by nature, a moral person but I feel I am more moral because of Jesus and the convictions I feel from being a Christian (not religious). People need to walk their talk.

No one said that morals came from judeo/christian religions. Where did you get that idea. There are a lot of atheists on this site w/ incredible morals. I will be the first to admit that.

Answer 3

All morals come from God. He influences all men through what the bible terms "the Light of Christ". The gift of free will and a conscience were given to all men, and most people learn right from wrong as they grow up. It is not an exclusive of any religion, although the revelations of God clarify and enumerate what are sins and what is virtuous.

Your remarks about priests or other clerical officials using their positions to justify evil deeds are not true because nobody uses their positiions to justify their sins, and if they do sin they try to do it privately and they do not flout it because they would be judged and excommunicated. Those who do know very well they are wrong and not justified by God or the Churches.

Answer 4

In western culture, and good deal of our morals can be traced to Judeo-Christianity origins, as well as to the Greeks and Romans. But on the other hand many cultures share some of the basic ones.

Unfortunately, many people don't understand that morals not only vary between cultures but also vary in the different subcultures of a given culture. They just accept what they were taught without questioning if it is really a good moral to hold or not.

Answer 5

Code of Hammurabi... predates the Bible and contains a majority of the "laws" given in the Old Test. Hammurabi was King of Babylon a few centuries before Moses was born (so there's no saying that Hammurabi copied Moses' laws after Moses and Aaron wrote the first 5 books of the Bible).

Society determines these things.

Answer 6

"Would i want it done to me, than i wont do it to you."

Kinda sounds like this:

Luk 6:31 And according as you desire that men should do to you, you also do the same to them.

In order to have an overarching moral code, you have to have a perfectly moral law giver or moral decider. No human fits this description, that person would be God. Otherwise, you have moral relativism, that is, what is right for me, may not be right for you, what is true for me, may not be true for you. This philosophy leads to societal suicide.

Answer 7

You just answered your own question. The whole idea of "would i want it done to me, than i wont do it to you" is a teaching of Christ and long before him by Abraham/Moses. Come on man, you're grasping at straws and have no argument of ground to stand on. No matter how much you fight it, morals have their base in Judaism/Christianity.


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The Golden Rule? Read the whole book of Matthew. That is exactly where the Golden Rule originated from. IT WAS NEVER HEARD OF UNTIL THEN. Do some research. up until then everyone grew up hating their enemies and hating those that hated them, just because it was fair to them at the time. But then when Jesus came, he began teaching everyone this new crazy thing called love. The Law of Hammurabi was just a set of laws. But morals only came around through Judaism and then Christianity.

Answer 8

They didn't. You are correct. Morality was created by people who wished to live near each other. If you put any three people in a room for long enough, they'll make rules.

If you look at Judeo/Christian morality, or any religion's morality, you'll find it really isn't so hot. Mostly, it is just lists of impossible rules that nobody who is a human could possibly follow. It's a way to make people feel guilty for not being "perfect". That guilt helps fill the pews and empty the pockets.

Answer 9

I agree with you. Morals are concepts that came about at the time of social groups as basic as tribes. For humans to live together, they had to curtail certain behaviors. Out of the 10 commandments, the only ones that pertain to non-theists are the ones about killing, stealing and lying. All very simple concepts to figure out on your own without having the read it for the first time in a Bible.

atheist

Answer 10

They didn't.

"Einstein" above pointed out that the Golden Rule being from Christianity. Interestingly, Confucius spoke it over 500 years before Jesus walked the earth.