2007-08-27 01:39:13 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Incredible!!! Maisy has just proven that the NT was plagiarized from the Torah!!! Hurray for Maisy!
1) JESUS DID NOT FULFILL THE MESSIANIC PROPHECIES
What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will:
A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world -- on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).
The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic prophecies.
Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming, but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright, and no concept of a second coming exists.
2) JESUS DID NOT EMBODY THE PERSONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF MESSIAH
A. MESSIAH AS PROPHET
Jesus was not a prophet. Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry. During the time of Ezra (circa 300 BCE), when the majority of Jews refused to move from Babylon to Israel, prophecy ended upon the death of the last prophets -- Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.
Jesus appeared on the scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had ended.
B. DESCENDENT OF DAVID
According to Jewish sources, the Messiah will be born of human parents and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, nor will he possess supernatural qualities.
The Messiah must be descended on his father's side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). According to the Christian claim that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father -- and thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of being descended on his father's side from King David!
C. TORAH OBSERVANCE
The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The Torah states that all mitzvot (commandments) remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)
Throughout the New Testament, Jesus contradicts the Torah and states that its commandments are no longer applicable. (see John 1:45 and 9:16, Acts 3:22 and 7:37) For example, John 9:14 records that Jesus made a paste in violation of Shabbat, which caused the Pharisees to say (verse 16), "He does not observe Shabbat!"
3) MISTRANSLATED VERSES "REFERRING" TO JESUS
Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew text -- which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation.
A. VIRGIN BIRTH
The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries later and translated it as "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth with the first century pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods.
B. CRUCIFIXION
The verse in Psalms 22:17 reads: "Like a lion, they are at my hands and feet." The Hebrew word ki-ari (like a lion) is grammatically similar to the word "gouged." Thus Christianity reads the verse as a reference to crucifixion: "They pierced my hands and feet."
C. SUFFERING SERVANT
Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the "suffering servant."
In actuality, Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52, describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people. The prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews ("Israel") are regarded as one unit. The Torah is filled with examples of the Jewish nation referred to with a singular pronoun.
Ironically, Isaiah's prophecies of persecution refer in part to the 11th century when Jews were tortured and killed by Crusaders who acted in the name of Jesus.
From where did these mistranslations stem? St. Gregory, 4th century Bishop of Nazianzus, wrote: "A little jargon is all that is necessary to impose on the people. The less they comprehend, the more they admire."
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2007-08-27 01:45:24 · answer #1 · answered by Hatikvah 7 · 8⤊ 1⤋
I am a devout Catholic. Judiam is NOT false! In order for Christianity to be true, Judaism MUST be true!!!!!
According to St. Paul,
"Did God reject his people? By no means!... 2God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew….Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their fullness bring!
16If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.
17If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but THE ROOT SUPPORTS YOU. 19You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in." 20Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. DO NOT BE ARROGANT, but be afraid. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
25I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26And so all Israel will be saved…29for God's gifts and his call are IRREVOCABLE.
Theirs IS the adoption as sons; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen
Romans 11:1-2; 11; 16-21; 25-26; 29. Romans 9:4b
2007-08-27 09:10:04 · answer #2 · answered by The Carmelite 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Maisy D--sorry, L'Chaim is correct. You don't know Hebrew as far as I can tell so please don't try to use isolated snippets of the KJV to prove your point. Let me give you a little Hebrew lesson while I'm at it. The word 'almah in Isaiah (I know you didn't reference this, but bear with me) that Christians take to mean "virgin" actually means "young girl." There is nowhere in my Bible that a virgin birth is predicted, talked about, etc.
To the questioner--we don't believe Jesus is the messiah because he didn't fulfill a lot of prophecies (see link below). Try educating yourself before asking such an offensive question. And for what it's worth, why don't we have this discussion **after** your messiah comes back, shall we? Until then--and as far as I know, you're still waiting--I think we're all entitled to our own religions.
2007-08-27 12:25:48 · answer #3 · answered by Mark S, JPAA 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Did you realize Jesus Himself practiced Judaism?
Surprise! Guess that means Christians are practicing the wrong religion!
2007-08-27 09:06:55 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
Who says its False?
It can trace its history back in a straight line for 5,000 years.
It pre-dates catholicism by about 3,000 years.
Why the Jewish community Doesn't believe in Jesus as a savior??
--Because then they'd be called "Christians".
Why don't buddhists accept Christ? Why don't Wiccans?
Silly question, really.
2007-08-27 08:46:38 · answer #5 · answered by chocolahoma 7 · 5⤊ 0⤋
Judaism is the source of two other major world religions: christianity and Islam. What it teaches fathered these other faiths-and inspired jews to survive as the oldest of all monotheistic religions.
Trinitarianism is the belief that there are three to the essence of god- this belief is accepted by all contemporary Christians. Judaism strongly disagrees. It stands firm in maintaining the God is One-without partners, self-sufficient, and indivisible. As important as it is to find common ground among differnet faiths, it is foolish as well as disrespectful to disregard their major differences.
Jews understand the idea of the trinity however judaism has serious difficulties with a number of trinitarian major premises:
God is not human. Man is not God. The Chrisitian doctrine of the incarnation, that god assumed human form, goes against the fundamental Jewish belief that GOd is incorporel - that he has no body and cannot be affected by any of the weaknesses of the flesh. To say that God then dies on the cross seems incomprehensible. God cannot die-just as HE does not "live" in human form.
To worship Jesus as God is to violate the commandment that "You shall have no other gods before Me." The greatest leader of the JEwish people, MOses, was buried by God in an unmarked grave. As the BIble says, "And no man knew this burial spot to this very day." No matter how great a man Moses was, God did not want him to be revered in a way that would have people confuse him with divinity. "And the man Moses..." (Numbers 12:3)-his name is prefaced by the adjective describing his mortal limitations. God was careful to delineate the difference between Himself and human beings. Jews can't accept that a man or woman could possibly be God.
Most disturbing of all to Jews idea of monotheism in the Trinity is that Judaism recognizes no intermediary between God and man. The first of the Ten Commandments, "I am the Lord your God," written with a Hebrew word that implies a singular "your." God speaks to every person directly and says, "I am accessible to you without any middle man." For the Jew, this means he has an open line to God Himself. Praying to the Son to get to the Father goes against one of the major beliefs of Judaism, as later codified by Maimonides" "To Him and to Him alone shall you pray directly." A Jew believes that no one else is supposed to talk for him, live for him-and certainly not die for him.
Jesus is to be respected as a man who lived divinely, but not revered as a god who lived humanly.
2007-08-27 10:10:44 · answer #6 · answered by DWInSTL 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Judaism is not false. Jesus is not our saviour because he does not fit the criteria for the Messiah.
2007-08-27 19:52:32 · answer #7 · answered by BMCR 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You know all of those prophecies that Jesus supposedly fulfills? He doesn't.
Early Christians got amazingly creative when they read Hebrew Scriptures. They took texts out of context, made much out of a single line, misread standard poetry conventions, that sort of thing.
In short, Jews know that Jesus couldn't possibly have been Moshiach because we can read Hebrew.
It really is that simple.
2007-08-27 08:50:20 · answer #8 · answered by The angels have the phone box. 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
I don't believe in the Euro model Jesus either. They acknowledge him as a prophet. Christianity is built on Judaism, so if that's false, so is Christianity.
2007-08-27 08:46:40 · answer #9 · answered by Lukusmcain// 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Jesus does not fit the description of the Messiah.
2007-08-30 16:30:51 · answer #10 · answered by ST 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋