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I mean... If Jesus is god...then he knew Judas would do that(He manipulated Judas). Also ... Judas had to do what he did...

2007-08-25 14:27:20 · 32 answers · asked by How Soon is Now? 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Dantes inferno was written by some guy... that means nothing

2007-08-25 14:38:10 · update #1

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No

2007-08-25 14:30:04 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Well, first let me address Dante's "Inferno." As you know, the lowest part of the lowest circle of Hell is reserved for the betrayers, and not just any betrayers, but those who betrayed <>. Dante was drawing parallels to what was going on politically in Florence at the time. Civil war was brewing, and his work is a direct commentary on that. He picked the most famous betrayer in all of history for the place of honor smack in the middle of Satan's mouth. That's all very nice, but it was done for a very good reason, namely artistic license.

You know what? In my opinion, Judas was part of the plan. Jesus knew he would betray Him. But I think logic dictates that Jesus must have known that it was just a matter of time before someone did. He didn't manipulate Judas, but He also didn't stop what was happening. No dying on the cross = no resurrection = no miracle = no saving of mankind. Jesus had to die, and He knew that. I think Judas was just the instrument of a greater good. Call me a heretic, but that's my story, and I am sticking to it, since it's what I believe.

Is he in Hell? I don't know. Only the Creator knows, as He calls the shots at that level. If I had to guess, I would say no. He was so sorry for what he had done he hanged himself. I happen to be one of those people who also believes the Creator doesn't turn away those who kill themselves automatically just because that's how they died. He knows what's in a person's heart, and judges accordingly.

2007-08-25 21:52:36 · answer #2 · answered by Bronwen 7 · 0 0

No Judas did not go to hell and has long since payed the karmic dept for what he did,and besides it was all part of the plan.! He is now today a very advanced Master in the system of Sirius and will return to earth as a teacher in about 500 years time.

2007-08-25 14:40:40 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Judas did what he did out of greed, for money. Judas gave place to the devil and he entered in.Jesus did not manipulate Judas, get it right before you speak.It was the will of God that Jesus take back dominion that Adam lost in the garden, And Jesus did that.

2007-08-25 14:33:57 · answer #4 · answered by Jesus Freak 5 · 2 0

Ever read the lost Gospel of Judas? It's one of the gnostic gospels that was said to have been written in the third or fourth centuries, and surfaced as a leather-bound papyrus manuscript inside an Egyptian cave in the 1970's. It was supposed to be the story told from Iscariot's side. It caused quite a stir last year when it was finally published because it turned the story of Judas as "quintessential traitor" completely on its head. In this story, Judas and Mary Magdalene happen to be Jesus' closest followers of all the disciples (yes, apparently in the gnostic scriptures, Mary is a disciple, too). But Jesus confides only in Judas to explain his plan to fulfill scripture -- and asks Judas to "fullfill" scripture by being the one to turn him in. Judas, as a faithful friend agrees to this. And because of this, Judas is also seen as a hero (and a martyr of sorts) in this story because Jesus tells him: "you will exceed all of them (the other disciples) for you will sacrifice the man that clothes me...you will be cursed by the other generations--in the last days they will curse your ascent to the holy generation."

Interesting, eh? Of course the gnostic scriptures aren't taken serious by some people.

2007-08-25 15:04:37 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Judas didn't have to do what he did but God already knew he was going to do it and that's why it was written in the Old Testament. I'm pretty sure he did end up in hell after hanging himself but I could be wrong. God loves that man very much despite what he did and if he asks for forgiveness I'm sure he will be forgiven.

2007-08-25 14:48:57 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

John 13:1-3

It was just before the Passover Feast. Jesus knew that the time had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he now showed them the full extent of his love.
The evening meal was being served, and the devil had already prompted Judas Iscariot, son of Simon, to betray Jesus. Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from God and was returning to God;

Matthew 27:3-6

When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty silver coins to the chief priests and the elders.
"I have sinned," he said, "for I have betrayed innocent blood."
"What is that to us?" they replied. "That's your responsibility."

So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

The chief priests picked up the coins and said, "It is against the law to put this into the treasury, since it is blood money."


May God bless you.

2007-08-25 14:46:26 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Before choosing his 12 apostles, Jesus “continued the whole night in prayer to God.” (Luke 6:12, 13) The responsible positions of apostleship logically were not to be entrusted to wicked men or to those weak in faith. Hence, the selection of Judas as one of the 12 would indicate that both God and Jesus viewed him favorably at that time. Furthermore, he was entrusted with caring for the common finances of Jesus and the 12. That points to his dependability at the time, especially since Matthew had experience with money and figures but did not receive this assignment.—Matt. 10:3; John 12:6.

But would not John 6:64 indicate that Judas had been unfaithful from the time that Jesus selected him as one of the 12 apostles? That verse states: “From the beginning Jesus knew . . . who was the one that would betray him.” However, the Bible also describes the Devil as being sinful “from the beginning.” (1 John 3:8) In the case of the latter, that does not mean from his creation as a faithful son of God, but from the start of his course of rebellion against God. Likewise in the case of Judas Iscariot, Jesus knew “from the beginning,” or at the outset of Judas’ wrongful course, that Judas was the one who would betray him. This went unnoticed by others, for we recall that shortly before the betrayal took place, the 11 faithful apostles still had not recognized Judas as the potential betrayer.—John 13:27-30.
Judas approached the chief priests and offered to hand Jesus over to them for 30 pieces of silver. When the priests agreed to this, Judas “began seeking how to betray him conveniently.” So the betrayal was planned ahead of time and was a deliberate act, not one committed impulsively in a moment of weakness. Luke 22:3 says that “Satan entered into Judas,” likely in the sense that the traitorous apostle succumbed to the will of the Devil, allowing himself to be used as Satan’s tool.

2007-08-25 14:33:37 · answer #8 · answered by conundrum 7 · 1 0

Judas did what he did from his own free will. It was his choice. Peter said in Acts that he was counted among them that he had witnessed His miracles and glory as they did. That means he was without excuse. Jesus said that it would be better if that man had never been born. So I would have to guess yes, that Judas was not forgiven for what he did. Don't forget Peter says that God tempts no one but we are tempted by our own lusts. I think Judas, as many Jews back then, was expecting the messiah when he came to be a worldly King and fight to free them from the Roman rule in their country. And when Jesus didn't do that many were disappointed like Judas.

2007-08-25 14:33:06 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

I mean Jesus is God... and he knew that greed would manipulate Judas. Judas chose to do what he did. Yes,
God knew what choice Judas would make.

2007-08-25 14:32:25 · answer #10 · answered by Randy 3 · 3 0

Jesus did not manipulate Judas.

2007-08-25 14:30:55 · answer #11 · answered by L.C. 6 · 3 0

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