Abortion Question?

Question

Ok a few questions here.

Firstly why when someone mentions abortion on this board they get a bible shoved down there throat?

Ok we don't know the circumstances as to why these people have the abortion.

I've had an abortion because i was beaten so badly by an x the baby was dead anyway.

But i know people who have used 2 lots of contreception and have got pregnant and people who are sterilised that got pregnant too.

Do you ever stop and realise that not wanting a baby means just that.
Just because some people in this world can't have kids dosen't mean a woman has to keep her unwanted baby.

We are all entitled to choose what happens to our body.

And id it means abortion so be it...if you don't like it tough $HIT

As for god punishing us...if god was real why was the bible written so many years after his death..

Answer 1

First off I think you need to sit back and take a deep breath. You do not need to try to convince anyone about the morality - or lack thereof - of having an abortion. If you feel that certain circumstances merit having an abortion, that's your right of course. But what you need to realize is that abortion is more than just a pretty little word that means to be free of pregnancy. When you abort you take a life. There is no other way to put it. I'm not here to judge, so don't take it that way. You just need to accept that a little life will never have the chance that you had to become a person.

Abortion is always going to be a word that causes a lot of anger on both sides. It's a tough issue. I believe in the woman's right to choose, but I also believe in the baby's right to live. I can certainly understand why many people might look to abortion as a way out. I know of someone who was raped, and couldn't bear the thought of going through nine months reliving that rape over and over. I also know someone else who was raped and went through with the pregnancy just because she knew that, no matter how tough it was, she couldn't be selfish and end the life that she was entrusted to carry inside of her. She gave the baby away, but now she carries a picture of that child with her. I didn't ask how she was able to get ahold of it, but it seems to comfort her to know that the child is okay.

If you aborted, fine. I'm sure that if your baby was still alive before the procedure you wouldn't have aborted. The point is, you didn't abort because you 'just didn't want the baby'. Yes, there are people who can't have kids, and it's not every woman's responsibility to have an unwanted child in order to give those people their chance. The world is unfair, we all know that. I think that half the people who are fighting against abortion think about all of those missed chances. Please realize that it's a hurting thing ... on all sides.

Lastly ... I believe in God. I believe so strongly in God that I can't let this last statement go. 'if god was real why was the bible written so many years after his death..' I realize that you are angry, and you're tired of people 'dragging' God's name into their arguments. But God did not ask for His name to be dragged into anything, and He doesn't deserve it to be placed on the defensive. God is real. God the Father did not die, and He never died. God the Son died over 2000 years ago, but He never ceased to exist. Do you realize what He died for? He died so that we would have the chance to be forgiven for whatever wrong we did in our lives. And, yes ... He gave us the opportunity to have free will to make the kinds of decisions we make. Right or wrong, He will not intefere with our choices. Whenever someone else 'shoves' the Bible down your throat, you can tell them that. God gave us free will. I won't try to tell you what God thinks about abortion, because I won't pretend to know what's in God's mind every moment of every day. I can tell you what I believe is His standpoint on the subject, but I won't. It's up to you to read the Bible ... or not to ... and come to your own beliefs.

As for why the Bible was written so many years after Jesus' death ... that is just not true. Before Jesus' birth there were many, MANY incidents recorded of interactions between God and people. Just ask yourself this ... why are so many things recorded after the death of anybody? Why were books written about Michael Landon after his death? Does that mean he didn't exist? Does that mean he didn't play Little Joe Cartwright, or Charles (Pa) Ingalls, or Jonathan the Angel? Why was 'The Jacksons: An American Dream' written so many years after these kids grew up? Does that mean that Michael was never abused as a child? Why, when your mother spanked you when you were five, it didn't come out until you were 65, in an autobiography? 'Mommy Dearest' was not written until well after Joan Crawford's death. Many things about Martin Luther King, Jr. were not made public until after his death. Many of our myths and legends that were passed around for generations through word of mouth were only written down officially during the last couple of centuries or so. Just because it was not recorded from the get-go does not mean it never happened. Come on, be real!

Answer 2

I agree with part of your question. I'm pro-life, but I think you're right about the "bible-shoving part". People are so qiuck to get out their damn bibles. I don't think they realize that not everyone in the world reads the bible every day.

You're also right about circumstances. If the pregnancy is a serious risk to the mother then I absolutely condone abortion. As far as the rest of the garbage people use as an excuse, I think they are pathetic.

In your case, the abortion occured after the guy killed the baby. All you did was remove the baby. This was obviously in no way your fault, and the fact that you were in an abusive relationship wasn't your fault either. I get so sick of people saying it's the girl's fault. It's not like these abusive guys have nametags that spell out that they are crazy.

I'm pregnant now, and I could never kill it. I love it's movements and hearing it's heartbeat.

Sorry for such a long answer....you seem like someone who knows what you're talking about :]

Answer 3

You said - "I've had an abortion because i was beaten so badly by an x the baby was dead anyway."

If the baby was dead anyway then an abortion would not be necessary - do you even know what an abortion is?

And I agree completely with TONY, the child would choose not to be aborted. From the moment of conception there is a life growing inside of you and to abort is to murder. In very very few cases abortion is acceptable, rape and incest etc where the mothers mental health may be at stake, but better to give birth and then offer the child for adoption if unwanted. Abortion purely as a form of contraception is so wrong.

I am in a bad situation financially, not exactly having a great time in my relationship right now, and all that, but let's hypothetically say I fall pregnant in this situation, I would NEVER, not for one moment consider an abortion. It's not the childs fault it was conceived, and somehow, some way, things would turn out alright. I'm not planning a baby right now, but if an accident did happen then there would be no possibility of me not having the baby.

If you don't want to get pregnant then you don't - in todays day and age with the contraceptive pill and condoms etc freely available there's no excuse!!!!!

And I'm not pushing the bible down your throat so lighten up a bit!

Answer 4

"Firstly why when someone mentions abortion on this board they get a bible shoved down there throat?"

I don't agree with them, but I can see why they do this. They REALLY BELIEVE that when you abort, you are committing murder. So, do them, widespread abortions are morally akin to genocide. Given their belief, their reaction isn't surprising.

"We are all entitled to choose what happens to our body."

In most cases, yes. However, there are many cases involving minors where they can't choose what happens to their bodies (age of consent, piercings, tatoos, alcohol consumption, etc). It is illegal to use some kinds of drugs, even though the only direct effect is on my body.

I'm just pointing out that if you use the "its my body" defense for abortion, you have to: A) explain why its still legitimate for the government to limit the use of some drugs or B) support marajauana/heroin/etc legalization.

Answer 5

hi,
i m not a christian and i cannot say much on the religious aspects of abortion ( with due respect to all religion ) but a a doctor ( aswell as being a woman) , i do not personally reccomend abortion of the first pregnancy if it was from marriage or from consensual sex of two in a long term stable relation even if its due to contaceptive failure or the couple states that they are simply not ready now but has definite plans for a child later on in future...the reason being following abortion sometimes though very very rarely the tubal openings in the uterus can get blocked n reverting the strility may be one hell of cumbersome procedure which may not always be successfull,,,,...
however if the pregnancy is a result of rape , sexual abuse or simply a casual flick then i think one can go for it....'coz of obvious reasons ......
also when the safety of the woman is a concern medically, or there is some danger of passing down some genetic defects to the baby from either the father or mother.

Answer 6

I believe abortion is a moral issue, not religious. Legally you have the choice in whether or not you want to keep or abort your pregnancy. It comes down to morally if you choose to believe it's not a baby until birth or at conception.

The part that I do not agree with is girls who use abortion as a form of birth control. If you know you do not want to have children either get the procedure done were you are unable to ever have children or don't be sexually active.

Rape is completely different, I can't say what a woman should do in this situation if out of rape she gets pregnant and does not want to keep the child, this was a forced act against her will and as such if she chooses to not keep the child...well ...it's up to her.

By the way, if your baby was already dead after what happened to you, you did not technically have an abortion it sounds like they had to preform a procedure to remove the baby from your body, you did not choose to end the babies life. In any event, I am sorry for your lose.

Someone has to look out for the babies/embryos whatever term you choose to use as they do not have a voice of their own.

Answer 7

Wow, sensitive question.

I will not shove The Bible down your throat, I just happen to be prolife.

Circumstances: If you are talking about rape and incest as many do fall back on that argument, it is really moot point as statistics show that less than 1/10 of 1 % of pregnancies are caused by this argument.

In your case, it was to save your life> carrying a dead fetus inside of you could have killed you probably. No argument there.

If you don't want a baby, don't have sex. Or have your tubes tied. Other than that, there are no guarantees.

Your body belongs to God, not you. He can choose what ever He wishes. It is not your choice to take a baby's life. That is murder, plain and simple.

Tough S----? How would you feel if your mother had aborted you?

And God is very real. Hope you come to your senses and realize that some day.

Answer 8

Of cause there are many cases which justify abortion and You explained the situation very well. The woman concerned is the only one who can judge and decide what to do.

The duty of the state should be to make sure the woman has the best psychiatric advice and the best medical attention.

As for the religious nuts, do not let them worry you. They are just nuts.

Answer 9

In all circumstances it is a woman's right to choose what to do and have done with her body. Just as it is my right as a man to accept or reject any medical treatment or procedure.

To force women to give birth to unwanted children is to treat them like cattle. And no religious work I have read sanctions treating women in such a way.

The real agenda in relation to this issue has, in reality, little to do with the rights of the unborn child. It's really about coercing women to accept the traditional role of women as a subservient gender.

It is interesting that religious fundamentalists of whatever religion: Christian, Muslim etc., share the same position on the abortion issue whatever else may divide them. It's not about religion but about oppressing women and rolling back the social progress women have made in the past fifty years.

Answer 10

I'm a late comer to this question and have read the answers above. I started out thinking it was a woman's choice - her body etc. The god squad can be ignored as far as I am concerned but some very good points have been raised. I think I could still go along with termination within the first few weeks, but unless a woman has been raped, there are ways to prevent a pregnancy in the first place.

Answer 11

So if you are compelled to shoot another person are you justified? Because I have an opinion against it ,in what way am I forcing the Bible down people's throat? You don't have to b e a Christian to know that it is wrong to throw a live baby into a garbage bin.What you want to do to your body is your business,but I don't have to agree with you.