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Well, The term "agnosticism" was invented by Thomas Huxley around 1869.

1800 YEARS AFTER JESUS.

Religion was here thousands upon thousands of years before anyone decided to question God.

Hey Agnostics, Skeptics and Atheists, what do you say about that?

2007-08-25 03:07:41 · 34 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Just because the term agnosticism was coined in 1869 doesn't mean that the school of thought was invented in 1869. People have been questioning God ever since people came up with the concept of God. And before people came up with the concept of God, everyone was atheist by default. Atheism ran unopposed before people made up magic sky daddies to give them false hope to help them cope with life and death.

Do you actually believe that your chronological argument has any merit at all? You are giving credence to the stereotype that Christians lack basic reasoning skills.

2007-08-25 03:23:06 · answer #1 · answered by Subconsciousless 7 · 3 2

Jesus's inner teachings may or may not be the inner focus of what Christianity is today. So Atheists will alaways question a book copied from oral traditions, and then only selected groups, so all of Chritiandom is not well represented today. An example is the removal of Nestorian gospels at the council of Nicea in the 4th century. And of course the Nag Hammadi scrols from the early coptic christians the 1st centurey in Egypt which puts a very different light on Mary the only female in the group. However Christianity as a structured religion is ecclectic religion containing elements that are pre Sumerian epics, Babylonian folklore,
Greek religious traditons and mystery cults,Italic fertilty gods which eventually in some cases transformed into the earliet saints. So the bible as a document is very complex and it has it's own story concerning it's developement and what it really is. What Jesus was experiencing, and what his diciples experienced through him will ever remain within their personal experiences. The Bible can weather it's share of criticism and still retain it's mysteries.

2007-08-25 03:28:58 · answer #2 · answered by Bruce Aurora 3 · 0 1

Actually, you are wrong, people have been questioning G-d long before the 1800's -- after all, isn't that the reason Moses and the Israelites had to wonder the desert for 40 years? Going back even farther, isn't that the reason Adam and Eve were booted out of Eden? And finally, isn't this the whole reason that Christ had to die and be raised again -- because people do question G-d?

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bocasbeachbum

Sorry to disappoint you, but the term Christian is in the Bible, before that the followers of Jesus the Christ; were known as members of "The Way". You can find the name Christian in Acts Chapter 11 and by the way this 'Book" was written by Luke, at about 60 AD (it could not have been written after this date, because Luke does not mention the destruction of the Temple 70 AD or of James and Paul's death in 62 AD). Considering how important all those events would have been to Luke, if this had been written after 70 AD; he would have mentioned them. The proper meaning of "Christian" is "follower of Christ".

2007-08-25 03:18:54 · answer #3 · answered by whathappentothisnation 3 · 3 0

First you must understand that the spread of Christianity has had nothing to do with any valid spirituality. It is an empire of power and wealth, which has committed mass murder again and again, to get where it is. Around 300 CE there was an opportunity, created by a combination of many factors in Rome, to overthrow the government and establish an empire of greed and hate, by the use of a false religion. Once it was firmly entrenched, the children of each new generation were brain-washed into believing the horrible garbage... and so it goes. As long as people have no critical thinking skills, it will continue to flourish. Jean

2016-05-17 10:47:12 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I'm not an atheist, so I hope you don't mind my 2 cents. Christianity is based on the Tanach, which is the same as the OT, as well as the NT or New Covenant.

I think a lot of people have little respect for it because of the adherence to easter egg hunts and Christmas trees. They're right about that, but shortsighted to reject God over it.

2007-08-25 03:13:15 · answer #5 · answered by theark 2 · 1 0

Christianity did not exist until 325 CE when an emperor wanted to consolodate his empire. The bible was compiled and voted on to make a good political statement. All of it was taken from different sources. Roman cathoicism was started in 782 CE. They took what they wanted and threw away what they didn´t like. The OT was taken from different cultures much from the Sumerian tablets which pre-date any written bible. Religions of many types have been around for millenia and some people then didn´t believe that the sun or thunder were gods.

2007-08-25 03:25:34 · answer #6 · answered by bocasbeachbum 6 · 2 1

Prior to Mr. Huxley coining the word using ancient Greek (prefix a- meaning without, as in amoral, and root word -gnosis meaning knowledge) the only word for those who did not believe in god was heathen.

So, let me get this straight: you're using the history of a word coined to call non-believers something that was not denigratory to somehow prove something?

Yes, religion was here for thousands of years. Particular ones rise and fall. There have always been non-believers. Thanks to Mr. Huxley we can refer to them without being insulting. You have a flawed premise that prior to the existence of the word non-belief did not exist. Your logic is so seriously flawed as to not even be worth responding to.

I just love how people who have come to believe in fairy tales will reach for any straw to try and prove a non-point.

2007-08-25 03:30:43 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Agnosticism and Atheism existed long before Christianity, even if the names weren't invented yet. There's always going to be non-believers in any generation in history.

2007-08-25 03:21:36 · answer #8 · answered by CK 5 · 1 0

The truth is and I have studied it is that there is no ripping off at all. The similarity's people say Christianity has with other religions is not debated at all amongst historians. What people have to do to make the stretch is called color the evidence. they will use, for example, a term "rose from the dead" and attribute it to another myth or religion. Take Osiris for example his body was torn into 14 pieces and spread around the earth. other Gods gathered the pieces up and put him back together where he became the lord of the underworld.
So what people do is say Christians have ripped off the idea of Resurrection. They will use a term like rose from the dead that conjures up christian thought and say Osiris "rose from the dead. But when we look close at this example there is nothing similar at all in the stories. This happens with all examples they give, most of which I have looked into personally. But we don't have to look at the other religions to know this just ask any scholar or historian and they will give the idea a good laugh.
Another thing Atheists, and skeptics have to account for is the fact that Jesus we for told thousands of years before his lifetime by moses and the prophets, he had to fulfill hundreds of specific prophecy's to show he was who God had said would come. Christianity did not start with Jesus it started in Eden when God told Adam and eve that someone would come from the seed of the woman. the first prophecy of Jesus uttered by God himself 6000 years ago.

So in order to say Christianity is a copy cat religion a person has to do a number of things that are considered logical fallacy's.

1. color the evidence.
2. Universalism. bundle up a bunch of religions to make it seem as though it was stolen. this does not work because most of them where not know to Jesus or any one during that time.
3. they have to set aside the old testament and act as though Jesus himself was not for told thousands of years before.

No one with a little historical knowledge buys into the idea of a copy cat religion. Christianity is unique in all aspects and just the fact that people have to lump a dozen figures from the past together color the evidence and assume Jesus knew of these religions and did the same shows how unique Christianity really is. It is such a stretch to suggest this no one in the real world of history looks at it as serious. I have listened to many debates between Christians and septics of reputable account and this idea has never been discussed. If it was a real as uneducated people make it out to be no one would be able to escape it as fact. But the sad thing for them is this idea only exists in there heads and one some poor websites with no credibility in the field of history of scholarship.

If you hear people say this it only make them look foolish.

Rom 1 22

Professing to be wise, they became fools,

Take no attention to this silly argument. spend some time in study to give a defense against it and you will see who beautiful Christianity is in history. If you ever have a question about it feel free to email me and I will help :)

God bless

2007-08-25 03:58:53 · answer #9 · answered by Michael M 3 · 1 1

Christ said that He was slain from the foundation of the world.
Christ was with God and the Holy Spirit at creation and before Noah's flood.

Noah's grandson Nimrod started your pagan, heathen, corrupt religions of gods and goddesses, idols and sexual misconduct in the temples of old. The old evil "queen of heaven" was none other than Semiramis the wife of Nimrod and mother of Tammuz. Nimrod knew the stories from Noah of how the fallen angels lived among men and took the daughters of men for wives and corrupted humans. That is the evil and wickedness that God destroyed.

That old evil queen of heaven has been many women throughout the ages from Ashteroth, Astarte, Ishtar, Venus, Aphrodite, Diana and Jezebel. She lives today and gives you a horoscope everyday. She seduces young men and promotes homosexuality and every other form of perverted sex in this world. She is the porno queen; the madam of the house; and the promoter of false religion. The tarot card reader; the Wicca witch and the spirit of antichrist.

2007-08-25 03:33:18 · answer #10 · answered by Jeancommunicates 7 · 1 1

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