My biology professor doesn't believe in Creationism(I think)...but?

Question

He gave me some great info that can kind of support creation...

The universe is 13 billion years old...
The sun is 5 billion
Earth 4.5
Life 3.9

Well first lets pretend God is real...so He HAD to have existed before the beginning of the stars and planets...so say sometime in 8 billion years God came to be(somehow) He created the Heavens and the earth...(Sun and planets within .5 billion years of each other) and after the earth He created humans 5 days later(on the 6th day).

So take the time between the between the creation of the world and the creation of man...6 days(total) and how many years is between the creation of the earth/life according to my bio professor? .6 billion years or 600 million years...not 6k years...but 6 is in there lol.

Anyway, just thought that was interesting...did you?

Take out the extra "between" thing...sorry.

skepsis...yeah, I know they're based on the earth days...Uhh if God is real than He created them..."heavens and the earth" not "the sun, earth, and only this solar system..."

And yeah, they're based on earth days...but if we lived on Jupiter than the year/days/whatever would be different...doesn't disprove it.

Linner the question was do you find it interesting too?

Answer 1

Not really. You do know that a "day" is just a reference to the Earth's orbit around the sun, right? That the length of a "day" is different on every planet, and only makes sense from a planetary viewpoint (and not an omniscient space viewpoint)?

Answer 2

No. It's an approximation, .6 is just to make it clean. Frankly, and this may hurt, but that is one of the stupidest things I have heard all day.

To analyze: So God isn't the progenitor of everything, just life? Because after the big bang, if God formed after as you claimed, things began forming pretty quickly. And we know the planets didn't just "pop" into existence. Furthermore, life has been around for 3.5 billion years, not just .6, meaning that the creation of man (you have to start at the start and end at current time, no cheating) took 3.5 billion years. But hey, 3.5 is 7*.5, which means that if you take the whole numbers (7 and 5) and subtract, you get 2, which is a number!

Do you see how flawed that reasoning is? If you want to believe that God created everything, that's fine, but don't think something like that *proves* anything.

Edit: Brian: you do realize that your response to skepsis amounts to "you can't prove that I'm wrong." You do realize how silly that is, right? I could claim that there is no such things as penguins, and if you showed me a penguin, I could just say that it's what YOU call a penguin, and you haven't proven me wrong.

Buddy, you gotta be a lot more cognizant of the way you are arguing something, or no one is ever gonna take you seriously.

Answer 3

No.

It looks like a desperate attempt at a form of apologetics.


That is one huge assumption you make at the beginning.

You skip the creation of the universe because it does not fit into your pre-conceived time line.

The time between the creation of life (day 3 grasses and trees) and the creation of man (day 6) is about 3.7 billion years, which throws your 100 million year 'day' out the window.

Also the Earth is made on day 3 but the sun is made later on day 4. This is the wrong order.


So lets make an assumption: This is a story made up by generations of bronze age nomads to try and explain how humanity got here. It has no bearing on reality.

Wow, that assumption makes a lot of sense and is totally consistent with the facts.

Answer 4

Yes, I've noticed correlations like that, too. However, it's hard to draw conclusions between time periods, because the dating systems we use could be erroneous, or our interpretation of scripture could be erroneous. But what is clear is that both the Biblical and Scientific accounts of creation/evolution, give a progression of events.

Here is an evolutionary and geological timeline for the earth:
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/geo_timeline.html

Here is the Geneisis account of creation:
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/gen/1

When you mix the two accounts together, you see that the "primitive tribesmen" who recorded the Genesis account, actually had a fair grasp of scientific processes. Imaginative alternatives to the Genesis account could include concepts such as the world being carried on a giant turtle's back, or creation "blinking" magically into existence.

God being the ultimate scientist, I think he explained evolution rather well, in the Genesis account, adapted to the capacity of the people whom he was teaching at the time.

EDIT: The Genesis account does not give an account of the creation of the universe (it is only talking about the earth, and our Sun), so it's not possible to draw similarities between the science theory and the (Biblically non-existent) religious theory regarding the origin of the universe.

EDIT 2: The term "day" in the English version of the Bible, is just as easily translated from the Hebrew to be "time period". There doesn't need to be an accurate time correlation between 6 days, or 6 billion years, etc. It's just talking about 6 periods of time.

Here is a good explanation of this common mis-interpretation of Genesis: http://www.accuracyingenesis.com/day.html

Answer 5

1.) The science that allows you to know how old everything is uses the same methodology as the science that established and supports the theory of evolution. It also disproves Genesis. You can't pick and choose when to believe science.

2.) According to genesis the god created everything in 6 days. A human wrote the book and a human day is 24 hours. That means 144 hours. Don't give me any crap about how god's days are shorter or longer. A day is the time it takes for the earth to rotate. That time is 24 hours, so quit with the apologetics.

3.) You use the term professor. That indicates a PhD at the college/university level. Will you please tell us what school you attend? I'm very curious to know what university would employ a biology professor that doesn't believe in biology.

Answer 6

Actually God created the universe a few milliseconds ago and just made it look older to fool us.

The Earth is constant and never ages. It was always created only a few milliseconds ago.

The reason he made it look older is a test to see in we would still believe in him.

Prove that it is not true if you doubt.

Remember that you will burn in Hell for doubting.

If you repeat the millisecond creation claim and people make fun of it remember to point out that God said a millisecond ago that there would be mockers and fools.

Mockers and fools prove the millisecond creation is correct.

Answer 7

Well, that works for the sun and the Earth (assuming your number system is base-10), but it doesn't work in Jupiter years or Venus years. And who made all those other star systems?

Um, does your scenario mean that Jesus is coming back in 100 million years? I'd better tidy up...

Answer 8

This is an easy question to answer.
TIME is a creation if man to measure movement. And as Dr. Einstein said time is relative. Time is different in different places.
Please tell your Professor he need to be on God time to understand Spiritual relative

Rev. Stephen D. Saum

Answer 9

How does this support creationism, exactly? The info he gave you I mean.

Answer 10

Not at all.

You learned all that and you STILL think there is support for Creation?