In order to "know" there is no God, wouldn't you have to know ABSOLUTELY everything ?

Answer 1

Very good point!!

Answer 2

Evil and suffering can not exist with an all powerful, all knowing and all loving god.

Since that is how Christians define their god - God - we can know that the Christian God does not exist, any more than a straight line that is curved, or a 5 sided square.


Do you KNOW that dragons do not exist? In order to "know" there are no dragons, wouldn't you have to know ABSOLUTELY everything ?

So, since you do not know everything does that mean that you are going to start believing in dragons?


It is interesting that for 99.99999% of things in this universe we actually require some evidence that they exist before we will say that it is real.

Why do we treat gods and goddesses so differently?

Answer 3

No, I have never said I don't know that a god-like creature doesn't exist. I believe the possibility of one existing is pretty much nil and even if something like that did exist, I don't think humans have a clue nor do I think that this god-like creature would obviously be due worship. There are a lot of things I don't know and there are a lot of things I have opinions about and a lot of things I'm fairly certain of.

As I have said before ABSOLUTISM is the domain of religion. Religious folks claim to know the unknowable. Not me.

Answer 4

No.

You only need to know one verifiable fact for which that fact, and the fact of the existence of a deity, would lead inevitably to a contradiction.

Since contradictions cannot be true, then you know the verifiable known fact and the existence of deity cannot both be true, and since you've verified the one, the existence of the deity becomes impossible.

There is such a known, verifiable fact -- free will is a literal impossibility in the universe in which we find ourselves. As such, theism is literally impossible.

Granted -- this leaves the possibility of deism, but since deism posits no different consequence than does atheism, and deism requires an unprovable a priori, there is no reason to make the supposition.

Atheism is the only logical conclusion, and based only on one verifiable fact.

Answer 5

Science always says you can't prove a negative and this births the NOMA (non overlapping materia) stance. We will never be able to prove 100% that god DOESN'T exist but look at it this way. Would you hang on to the same lottery ticket for you entire life. Guarding and protecting it loving it on the assumption that it is the winner? What are the odds?

Answer 6

I've never said I 'know there is no god', just that the probability for the existence of god is the same as the probability for the existence of the tooth fairy.

I'll bet you're just as willing as I am to take a strong position on the existence of the tooth fairy.

Answer 7

Do you believe everything you "think"?

Nope.

So we just have to know few things...

1. Earth is not a flat circle.

2. Earth is not center of Universe.

3. Sky is not a solid firmament.

4. Snakes do NOT talk.

5. Universe is not 5000 years old.

Answer 8

Capital "G" god? No you wouldn't have to know everything. You'd just have to read the bible. A general god? Then yes you would have to know alot to know for sure.

Answer 9

No.
Why would you?
Using your definition we can propose any crazy idea and say "but you don't know it's not true".
Additionally, you are actually saying that, in order to know whether or not there is a god, you'd actually have to *be* god (know everything).
Sorry, that's not a valid argument.

Answer 10

take the word god and replace it with the word tooth fairy or Thor or FSM.

Unless you want to argue that you don't "know" that those three don't exist you don't have a point.

Of course if you have some evidence that your god exists please feel free to share it with the class

Answer 11

Spurrious argument begging the question. No one claims to "know" there is no God. We just don't believe in one.