problem with unplanned matings in dogs,?

Question

on tuesday, my friend left her house with her, in season 18 months old bi tch, locked in the garden and her whole male dog locked in the house, she came back a hour later to find the male outside with the female after having jumped out of a downstairs kitchen window, so assumed that she must have been mated, phoned the vets, who said they couldn't do anything, because to do the abortion thing they needed to be SURE that she had been mated and was told she would just have to hope she hadn't, so my friend goes out today, again leaving the bit ch outside with the male inside but this time making sure all the ground floor windows where shut. not thinking to check upstairs, came home and sure enough, her male had jumped out of the upstairs window,lucky she didn't kill himself, this time however she caught them locked so knows that she was mated. phoned the vets, who said that because they aren't sure if she was mated the FIRST time or not, that they still cant do anything

so now my question is, is there really nothing the vets can do? they know that she is only young, and too young to be mated really. but they say the only thing they can do is scan her in 4 week ans see if she is pregnant or not. the vets are normally very good so i cant see them being wrong, but really we don't want this dog having pups, and she is a full high pedigree husky, so spaying is also out of the question.

i know if a female is mated by two or more dogs that means that she can have multiple fathers, does that mean that because this dog may have been mated twice, she may have MORE puppies? a larger litter as such?

this is a full blown pedigree bi tch that my friend already had an agreement with the breeder that would go back to her at 3 years old to be bred to an unrelated dog, so spaying is out of the question as her and the breeder already have a deal on this.

anne i agree with you completely on the case of why wasn't the male neutered. i have told her every time i have seen her since she got the bi tch that she should have him neutered. after seeing how he has responded and how emotionally distraught he has been each time she has been on heat until now. i knew it was only a matter of time before something unplanned happened. and here it is, i have told her so much to get him done, but he is such a lovely natured dog that she is worried it will spoil his temprement, i have explained that it wont, but she doesnt believe. i just hope now that this may make her realise the error of her ways and get him done

Answer 1

Your friend needs to call the breeder and explain what has happened. She has unintentionally violated her contract with the breeder, and this breeder may want the dog spayed immediately. Also, the breeder may have no more interest in having the female bred later, now that this has happened. If the dog does have the puppies, please advise your friend to give them up to rescue so they can get good homes.
My question is, so why isn't the male neutered?

Answer 2

This was an entirely preventable situation. I can't believe she would leave a female in season outside, where any determined male could get to her. As her male already proved, males will go to great lengths to get to a female in heat.

What I don't understand is why crating was not used for these dogs to prevent this. A female in heat should NEVER be allowed outside unattended, at all.

I would suggest contacting a few other vets to see what other options your friend might have that her vet isn't sharing. Might just be more profitable for them to do the procedure to remove the pups, so they are pushing in that direction.

Years ago, I remember hearing that here, in the US people could get a shot for a female in season suspected of having been bred which would terminate the pregnancy. I have no idea if this is still practiced these days, but something to look into.

Added: If your friend is working with a breeder on a contract, then she should really contact the breeder on this issue to see what the breeder feels is the best course of action.

Answer 3

The story doesn't make sense. A female in heat can be spayed. A dog abortion is a spay. And they can spay a pregnant dog. So the vet is wrong or your friend is not telling the whole story. Your friend should spay her female and neuter her male so he won't get hurt jumping out of windows. End of problem.

It doesn't matter that her female is high pedigreed. Unless she is showing this dog to championship, screening for genetic diseases and being mentored in proper breeding practices (which she obviously isn't), her dogs need to be fixed.

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Well, prepare for a C-section in a young dog and let the breeder know. She will be ticked off. The number of pups relates to the number of eggs fertilized not how many breedings occurred.

Answer 4

1st. Locking the dog inside isn't good enough way of contraception, especially if she is not responsible enough to lock the doors and windows correctly. Then again, if she was responsible enough she would have neutered them already. She must spay/neuter both dogs.
2nd. It doesn't matter if the dogs have mated or not. They should not do an abortion, but spaying altogether. This can be done with or without mating. Has she explained that to the vet? Or is she saying that she doesn't want the dog spayed, because if that's the case, then she will end up with a litter of puppies now and many more to come.
3rd. If she doesn't want to spay the dogs, it means she wants them to breed, so why does she want to make her go through an abortion? Spay or puppies, it's as simple as that.

Answer 5

no she wont have a larger litter it will be what ever eggs were realeased on ovulation will determine howmany can be fertilized. The vet can do something. They can spay her and nuter the male. They can spay her while being pregnant it will stop the puppies from being born and future issues like this. Nuetereing the dog will save him the trouble of jumping out of windows for girls. The female should never have been te one outside. She was asking for all kinds of trouble there, your friend. In heat females should be confined indoors at all times and only outside for potty breaks. They should be supervised and under owner control at all times when outside, they should not be walked on the street either. Its only asking for trouble like the trouble your friend is in. Get her spayed.

A good breeder wont breed a dog not proven to be show quality or a champion. If your friend got into and agreement like that then this dog is not high quality. I guess with your explanation like that you dog is screwed. There is a shot they can give that may or may not abort the pups but some vets dont like to give it cause it can hemorage the dog while aborting. Prepare for pups get homes lined up and your friend should be more responsible next time the female shouldnt ever be left un-attended outside.

I have one unspayed female, one un nutered male. 5 other altered dogs, and I have numerous foster animals that are not always altered right away. I have never had and accidental breeding in all my years. Its cause i take all pre-cautions and resposibilty with common sense.

Answer 6

If she can't spay her female, she should have had her male neutered.

It's actually as simple as that.

For now, she needs to call up the breeder and let them know what has happened. Returning a dog that has already had a litter, for breeding, would be a bit unethical considering the deal they have made.

It's also a good idea to spay her dog immediately. Having a litter at such a young age could be quite problematic.

Answer 7

If you are in the UK, there is a "morning after" injection which is not without risks but probably better than a young b1tch having a litter. Tell your friend to ring round vets. I can't believe a vet says they can't do anything.
(There is no such thing as a "high Pedigree" dog - all dogs have pedigrees)

Answer 8

Tell her to go to another vet, they can give her an injection to stop the pregnancy, but she will be in season a lot longer, she should then put the male into kennels until the season is over, then 3 months later get the b itch spayed.

Answer 9

I hope the breeder doesn't find out often the ***** would not be accepted to be bred by a purebred once bred to a mix or anohter breed.
there isn't much that can be done and at 4 weeks all they can do is tell her the dog is definately pregnant or do a spay.
I hope no other dogs got in teh garden. as far as larger litters no she will produce just so many eggs and they will either be fertilized by one dog or more.

Answer 10

Make an appointment to have her spayed. And try another vet. If she mated second time, it's a done deal. Does not matter about the first time, whatsoever. A tie is a tie.