the new testament god is jesus with hints of OT god?

Question

now the OT god was mean and killed lots of people and told people to kill others if they didnt follow him. that means this god is extremely violent,cruel, and harsh.

yet jesus comes and preaches forgiveness....but the gospels writers really do him a disservice by having him threaten people on how to live their lives. to me that is not consistant at all with how jesus wanted people to live. he wanted people to love thy enemies and be the good samaritan. yet if they dont believe in him all this crazy stuff will happen. now another inconsistancy with jesus being all lovy dovy is that the NT god which if its really jesus shows how vindictive he is because he has to sacrifice himself in one of the most brutal ways possible to save humanity. From what? not really from sin, but from God. Think about it, people sin andeventually they will kill each other, but God actually would be the one destroying them first.
So my question is, why does it seem like jesus is peaceful when he really isnt

jerks who are calling me stuff, please point out some facts like the one lady who said the son of god is not god

mike b how did you answer even make any sense? im talking about the violence of god in comparison with jesus?

Answer 1

Jesus is the same God of the OT; Isa 9:6-7, KJV. Job 29:1, "...Job continued his PARABLE". Job 1:8, God says to satan, "Hast thou considered MY SERVANT Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?". Was God bragging about Job to satan? NO! He was setting him up for an eternal fall. Job 1:9-10, satan says, you've put a hedge about him & all he has. Give me access to him & he will curse you. Sure enough, mortal man does sin when satan has access to us but satan didn't know that He himself would also become flesh and be tempted by satan. Satan couldn't comprehend such love. I think God set satan up to be done-away-with & that is the parable in Job. Satan knew he could make all men fall if given access to them. He just had no idea that God himself would become flesh as part of the bargain. If just ONE can not be tempted and will not fall, I will be cast out of heaven and be destroyed at God's appointed day. Isa 14:26, "This is the purpose that is purposed upon the WHOLE EARTH:::::: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon ALL the nations". What is this "purpose"? Isa 14:24-25, "The Lord of hosts hath sworn, saying Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have PURPOSED, so shall it stand:::: That I will break the Assyrian/satan in MY LAND, and upon MY MOUNTAINS tread HIM/satan under foot::: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and HIS burden depart from off their shoulders". Isa 14:12, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!!!! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the NATIONS!" John 12:31, Jesus said, "Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out". This is why bad things happen to good people. It is part of the plan of God to destroy satan eternally. He gave satan access to us all for a short time that we may live eternally without satan's condemnations.

Answer 2

There is no difference between Jesus and God. They are Father and Son, but not in the same way that you are your father's child. God and Jesus are one entity and together with the Holy Spirit form a trinity of such complexity that it is beyond human understanding. That being said, God in the OT commanded many things, primarily obedience. Now, in modern times, we like to think that if one doesn't obey it's no big deal. Take your children (if you have any) for example. If they misbehave or disobey, modern society says give them a time out, or maybe a light spanking (though this is frowned upon and could get you a stint in jail). God loves us all and He is not best pleased to have to exercise His authority to discipline us. But there is sin, and there is a death sentence on it. God is as much just as He is loving and He must be so. So yes, you die in sin you spend eternity in Hell. The end. However, He provided a way for His justice and forgiveness to go hand-in-hand by having His Son pay the price for our sin and suffer our sentence. Jesus did this willingly; He didn't have to, nor did God have to allow it. All of history from creation was leading up to this.

Answer 3

Good morning,

First of all Jesus is neither the God of the Old Testament or the New Testament. Jesus is not GOD... Period. Jesus is the SON of God and that is clear if you study the Gospels with an open mind.

As far as God's warrior status in the Hebrew Scriptures/Old Testament.... think about the nations he destroyed. They practiced child sacrifice in the name of their god, Molek. Archaeologists have discovered hundreds, if not thousands of bone jars filled with the skeletons of hundreds if not thousands of children. It's been said that some of these archeologists stated that the only wonder is why God waited so long to act against these nations. To be perfectly frank, I cannot recall the exact references for this but I'm certain you can do some research and find it for yourself. In fact, you'd probably be more comfortable with that.

Do a little research. It'll be worth your time. :-)

Answer 4

l think one of the reasons humans battle with the perception of the God of the Bible is that his standards are high. What did we expect, that he would just accept everything we do as okay? l think most of us don't have a clue how far we fall short to God's standards.

lf you take this into consideration, his love and mercy is breathtaking. lnstead of just leaving humans to hate and destroy each other and create hell on earth he actually interferes, to such an extend that he appears on earth as a human, and then sends his spirit to guide people who are truly interested in following him.

So yes, the OT God and the NT God are the same: a God who is interested in us, cares about what we do with our lives, tries to save us from ourselves, and finally gives himself in the process.

Answer 5

Jesus preached forgiveness and our need to repent.
If we do not repent then we will be judged as guilty.

The only way to have your sins forgiven is to give that which will satisfy the law. Sin is a very serious thing to God. And the most costly thing we have (our very lives) is not good enough because we have sin in our lives. So God sent Jesus to take our place in death that we may be forgiven and be innocent in God's eyes.

Jesus is the way to peace with God, if we accept His sacrifice and claim Him as our Savior.

But if we reject that gift, then we condemn our selves to Hell.

Answer 6

You need to start with actually reading your Bible so you can get your facts straight.
The Old Testament testifies of God and His Christ to come. The New Testament testifies to His Truth in the life of His Christ.
Example
OT
Isaiah 40:3
The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “ Prepare the way of the LORD; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God.

NT
John 1:23
He said: “I am‘ The voice of one crying in the wilderness:“ Make straight the way of the LORD,”’ as the prophet Isaiah said.”

Answer 7

God was compassionate in the Old Testament. What I am about to show you is that God was operating on the Law. It was the covenant that God had the Hebrews under, and by which things would be ordered. It was referred to as the Law of Moses.

Paul referred to it this way:
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. (Galatians 3)

and said certain things which are still not understood to this day - even by other Christians:
20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. (Romans 3)

So the Law was strict. Unbending, and showed all who attempted to keep it that they could not keep it. It is said that there are 613 of them to keep!

But God showed compassion for those who did a very definable thing: They trusted God. Even though they did not maintain perfection in the Law, they were truster's of God; faither's of Him. They are those who set aside the difficulties they were facing in favor of trusting Him.

And now what God said to Moses:
5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, 6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.' These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites." (Exodus 19)

The word 'holy' here means 'dedicated'. They are a dedicated nation to God.

But the Israelites were not holding up to what God said, and so God with the 'unbending' law, judged them:
9 "I have seen these people," the LORD said to Moses, "and they are a stiff-necked people. 10 Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation." (Exodus 32)

But Moses was acting as a 'type of Christ' , a mediator; a sort of 'proto - Jesus' :
11 But Moses sought the favor of the LORD his God. "O LORD," he said, "why should your anger burn against your people, whom you brought out of Egypt with great power and a mighty hand? 12 Why should the Egyptians say, 'It was with evil intent that he brought them out, to kill them in the mountains and to wipe them off the face of the earth'? Turn from your fierce anger; relent and do not bring disaster on your people. 13 Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: 'I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever.' " 14 Then the LORD relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.

So grace was allowed in the hands of a mediator. Which is exactly the relationship that Jesus is. Wrath was averted, and instead the mediator took on the responsibility to not only apply grace, but also to deal out judgment. So the concept of the mediator, the deliverer, and the judge was showed to the Hebrews early on. Why didn't the current nation of Jews understand that? Because it was also promised to them that they would not believe as a nation. But that is another story.

All throughout the Old Testament many things happened, Jonah comes to mind. Where God threatened people, towns, and cities. He gave many chances to repent from their ways, and when they did, grace was applied. When they did not, wrath was poured out.

And that's just what Jesus promised! He wasn't all lovy dovy, especially when it came to unbelief. He cursed and prophesied judgments, some to come, some already came.

So God never did change. He has always been rewarding of belief, and condemning of doubt. And it's promised by Jesus Himself that there would be judgment ahead for those who doubt.
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
(John 3)

Answer 8

Jesus said he didn't come to bring peace you ignorant person, if you are going to ask a biblical question actually know what you are talking about.

Answer 9

Do you get lost real easy? Short attention span? Or do you just have a lot of trouble understanding things?

Answer 10

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