Why are there documented sightings, drawings, carvings and sculptures of dinosaurs (before 1841)?

Question

There are many specific, documented sightings, drawings, etc. of dinosaurs, many of them dating before 1841, when they were supposedly discovered.

The Bible mentions at least 3 dinosaurs: Leviathan (a fearless, coiling sea serpent), Behemoth (a land-dwelling giant creature with tail like a cedar), and a flying serpent (pterosaur).

Yet why does "science" reject this, refuse to explain it, and say there is no evidence? I am a scientist.

I am a Mechanical Engineer.

Answer 1

Because man and dinosaurs have lived contemporaneously; that is the only logical conclusion.

On the walls of the Havai Supai Canyon in Arizona, they’ve found ancient Native American cave art (known as petroglyphs). There are depictions of men and different animals like cattle, sheep, buffalo, oxen, and what looks just like an Edmontosaurus. In the early 1900's when Dr. Samuel Hubbard discovered it, he wrote: “The fact that the animal is upright and balanced on its tail would seem to indicate that the prehistoric artist must have seen it alive.”

In Natural Bridges National Monument in Utah, they’ve also found ancient native American cave art of lots of animals as well. I believe these are attributed to the Anasazi Indians who lived there between approximately the fifth and fourteenth centuries. Even though the rock is quite weathered, if you outline these, you can make out the unmistakable representation of what any school kid would recognize as sauropod dinosaurs. Scientists accept the mammoth drawings, but not the dinosaur. Francis Barnes, an evolutionist and widely recognized authority on rock art of the American Southwest wrote: “There is a petroglyph in Natural Bridges National Monument that bears a startling resemblance to a dinosaur, specifically a Brontosaurus, with long tail and neck, small head and all.”

On an ancient temple at Angkor, Cambodia (built in the 12th century), there is a pretty clear depiction of a stegosaurus. It is found with other animals like pigs, monkeys, water buffalos, roosters, snakes, etc. I think we can reasonably conclude that these figures depict the animals that were commonly seen by these ancient people. That means only a little over 800 years ago, some dinosaurs were still alive the region of Cambodia.

In the 1940s, near El Toro mountain in Acambaro, Mexico, a German archaeologist named Waldemar Julsrud found many ancient handcrafted ceramic and stone figurines that have been identified with the Pre-classical Chupicuaro Culture (800 BC to 200 AD). Many are typical Aztec figurines, but also a bunch of highly detailed dinosaurs. Many others have been dug up since then and over 30,000 of the figurines have been found from many different sites. David Childress says, “Most ‘respectable’ archaeologists will walk around the Acambaro mystery as if it were a land mine. The existence of the figurines threatens the ivory tower of the current paradigm of history.” Many archaeologists today quickly dismiss them as an elaborate hoax—they have to, if they are going to continue to believe the dinosaurs became extinct 65-70 million years ago.

In Ica Peru, there have been over 15,000 Inca burial stones found that clearly depict dinosaurs on about 1/3 of the stones. The type of art form and their location date them to the time of the Inca Culture (500-1500 AD). These stones show scenes of man controlling, killing or being killed by dinosaurs. Now, no doubt some stones have been forged in recent years for profit by the locals, and skeptics quickly point to these reproductions as proof of a hoax. But these stones cannot be so easily dismissed because early Spanish reports tell that some of these unusual stones with the strange animals on them were being asked about by a Jesuit missionary in the early 1500s, and some of them were reported to be brought back to Spain by Conquistadors in 1562.

On Bishop Bell’s tomb from the 15th century in Carlisle Cathedral, there are brass strips along the sides with animals carved into them. Along with the common animals, there are some with long tails and necks that look an awful lot like sauropod dinosaurs.

There is a massive Palestrina mosaic (21' x 17') depicting the Nile from Ethiopia to the Mediterranean (Palestrina is an ancient city in Italy). The mosaic is dated to around 100 AD. It contains clear depictions of known animals, but also some that are unknown. Some people try to say that a certain one is just a poorly done crocodile, but there is a crocodile on another part that is portrayed perfectly. Besides, the Greek lettering above it is literally translated, “crocodile-leopard” not crocodile. This animal they called a “crocodile-leopard” back then, looks a lot like something we would call a “dinosaur.”

And on and on...

Answer 2

EVOLUTIONIST CALLS BELIEVER FOOL
BELIEVER CALLS EVOLUTIONIST DEVIL
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Believer is desparate to prove that Bible is correct, and looks around for some evidence in the Bible to prove that Bible is scientifically correct. The believer is half baked in Bible knowledge to admit that Bible is not a scientific thesis. To be frank the creation account in Genesis 1 is symbolic and not actual creation. (This can be proved by comparing Genesis Chapters 1 and 2 - I do not get into it, now).

Evolutionist is out to prove that Bible is wrong. Like the believer he has heard only about the order of creation in Genesis 1. Adding to that he has a stock of fables that has no basis in Bible. Many think that Bible teaches that earth is flat (see an answer above - intended for 2 points).

THE SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE EVOLUTIOIST IS WORSE THAN THE BIBLE KNOWLEDGE OF THE BELIEVER.

There are cases where a skull or bone or fossil was found and the scientist declares it as 3 million years old without verifying it. No tests done. MANY OF THE DATING TESTS ARE ESTIMATIONS AND SIMULATIONS AND CANNOT BE FOOL PROOF. Unlike tall claims these tests cannot prove the correct age of anything.

DEAR EVOLUTIONIST:

For argument sake let me agree that Man evolved say 1 million years ago. How then is that language and writing is just a few thousand years old.

Could you please tell me how is that humans which were dumb for most part of the Million years have become smart only in the last part of the million years?

Could you tell me, if everything is evolved, how the base "element" (whatever you call it) from which all evolved came into existence?

DEAR BELIEVER
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Bible is not about Science it is about CONSCIENCE and HUMAN SALVATION. MANY SCIENTIFIC TRUTHS OF TODAY WILL BECOME UNTRUTHS TOMORROW.

Fight for your calling and election.

May the Lord add his blessings!

Answer 3

Funny, you don't see much religious scientist. None the less friend, dinosaurs where discovered way before 1841. Accient civilizations thought the bones to be from dragons and such but never dinosaurs. This was later debunked of course. These creatures you listed from the bible seem to be more along the lines of made up monsters than of dinosaurs. Take care

Answer 4

i totally believe that dinosaurs walked the earth when humans did. all they are is large reptiles, everything lived longer back then because of the firmament of water protecting the earths atmosphere, and a reptile grows as long as it lives. so if you have a 900 year old lizard, it will be pretty huge. dinosaurs still live today, they just don't have the chance to grow as big a before. although many are extinct, the reptiles we have now are some that were once large dinosaurs.

Answer 5

Don't forget that fossils existed before they were 'found' by Europeans. Herodotus talks about bones found in Egypt and the legends surrounding them. Similarly, it would not be out of the question for actual dinosaur bones to inspire legends like that of the leviatan or of dragons. Of course, the bones were interpreted as those of living, usually magical, creatures rather than of extinct animals.

Similarly, finding fossils of clams or fish on mountain tops could easily lead to the flood myths. Ancient people were very observant, they simply didn't understand things like tectonic movements or how the earth changes over time.

If you actually read the Biblical passages that you mentioned, the writer did not actually see the creatures. God was talking about them (i.e. they were a legend). Herodotus actually saw the bones.

Answer 6

Well, the whole dinosaur body plan was so successful, other lifeforms sometimes "copied" it, like the giant armadillos that look like ankylosaurs, also, maybe they simply saw FOSSILS, and based these beasts on them, and finally, there are differences as well as similarities between these and dinosaurs (Dragons, unlike T-rexes, have functional forelimbs).

Answer 7

well the fossils are there for anyone to dig up. i suppose they could have been recognised as such earlier than 1841, but certainly the knowledge was not widespread. dinosaurs in the bible is pure wishful thinking - those descriptions could be any number of modern, extinct or mythical beasts. you're a scientist you say... what did you study?

Answer 8

idk...As far as I know they still deny the existence of UFO's. I can't explain that either. Nor can I understand it. The same goes for many things science rejects as untrue. Or is it just that they lie to the public for our own good?

Blessed Be

Answer 9

that's like using the term 'building' to describe an entire city...

and where exactly are the 'documented sightings'???

I'm going to guess that you actually believe this dribble, yet scoff at the idea that the Loch Ness Monster may actually a dinosaur...

Answer 10

Well, there have been many mentions of dinosaur bones long ago, but people did not know what they were, exactly. But to answer your question, many people believe that the only point of science is to disprove religion. Quite lame really, don't ya think?