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if the pope ordered a crusade against another religion would you obey?

Would you kill in the name of your god if it was religiously justified, if it was your duty as a catholic?

It has been done in the past and justified before.

or would you disobey the pope and his commands?

(if your a member of another religion I'd still like to know your views if something similar was stated by your leaders)

Please don't be shy about answering, I'd love to hear everyones genuine belief on this

2007-08-24 00:20:16 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

10 answers

If the Pope makes an ex-cathedra call for a holy war of course I would obey.

The pope speaks infallibly, that is, free from error, when he clearly states he is using his infallible authority. He must intend what he proclaims to be a matter of belief for the whole Church and it must concern faith and morals. The bishops share in this infallibility when, in union with the pope, they proclaim a dogma, either at an ecumenical council or with some other manner of teaching.

The pope's role since Vatican II has been exercised more often in communion with the other bishops in shared decision making called collegiality. The papal office has changed from that of a rigid dictator to benevolent apostle and pastor.

If you wish to study this doctrine in depth please go to this link. http://www.catholicity.com/encyclopedia/i/infallibility.html

2007-08-24 01:16:28 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

You have a mistaken idea of Catholicism, war, and the Crusades.

+ The Crusades +

Muslim armies had conquered much of northern Africa, Egypt, Palestine, Syria, and Spain, which had been some of the most heavily Christian areas in the world.

Thousands, and possibly millions, of Christians died during this drive to eventually bring the entire world under Islam.

The First Crusade was launched in 1095 by Pope Urban II to check the advance of the Muslims and regain control of the city of Jerusalem and the Holy Land.

I am sure that some atrocities were committed by both sides during this war (as there are in all wars) but by most people's judgment this was a just war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade

+ Just War Doctrine +

The “just war” doctrine requires rigorous consideration to determine if defense by military force is legitimate.

Offensive war is never justified.

All the following considerations must be true to justify war:
1. The damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
2. All other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
3. There must be serious prospects of success;
4. The use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated.

For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 2309: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3sect2chpt2art5.htm

+ With love in Christ.

2007-08-24 16:33:19 · answer #2 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 1

The church is made up of people. And people are not perfect. Did the church make mistakes in the past, yes. That the people thought they were justified cannot be mistaken. People have to follow their conscience. In the New Testament, it was never justified to kill another in the name of faith. If anything, the converse was true, it is the believer to die for the redemption of the sinner (it was seen in many cases, Saint Peter is one such example), violence was never justified. The punishments were left to God. So no, I would not participate in the innocent killings. No one deserves to die for not believing, that will be judged by God in the afterlife.

2007-08-24 00:34:30 · answer #3 · answered by Willy W 1 · 0 0

That's a big IF.

If Oral Roberts said (again) he was going to die, unless his television viewers sent him 10 million dollars, would you send in a few bucks?

c'mon. Who are you trying to kid?

I am a US Citizen. I am too old to be drafted. I owe my allegiance to the USA, when the cause is just. I follow the teachings of Holy Mother the Church, who teaches that war must be avoided, and all diplomatic solutions must be investigated before engaging in military conflict. I find it hard to believe that there could ever be a just war against another religion.

2007-08-24 12:42:27 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

particular, i'm a practising Catholic. I do experience undesirable whilst, at Christmas and Easter, all those "two times a 365 days" Catholics pop out - yet then I comprehend that it would desire to be worse. it would desire to ok be achieveable they do now not pop out in any respect. it quite is undemanding for somebody, who attends Church a week, to pass to Mass on Christmas, Easter, and Holy Days of criminal accountability. I in many cases ask your self merely how plenty harder that's for persons, who do now not attend Mass many times, to get out and pass to Mass some time according to 365 days. we gained't think of it, because of the fact all of us be conscious of what we could be lacking. i do now not think of those "two times a 365 days" types can totally rejoice with what that's they're lacking. in the event that they did, they had be at Mass greater effective than two times a 365 days. i'm proud to be Catholic, so that's each and all of the greater disappointing as quickly as I see human beings taking an "oh hum: physique of concepts in the direction of their vocation as lay Catholics. All we are able to incredibly do approximately that's pray, and wish that they occasion we set will, sometime, motivate them to start up residing the Catholic existence style all 365 days around.

2016-12-31 04:47:04 · answer #5 · answered by houghtelling 4 · 0 0

Since there is NO such thing as a Just War against another faith (we HAVE outgrown some of our adolescent behaviors, which is more than can be said of some other faiths), it's a moot point, another straw man with which the anti's can try to abuse the Church.

BAH!

2007-08-24 00:29:57 · answer #6 · answered by Granny Annie 6 · 3 0

It all depends on whether the Pope's assessment of things was correct, according to the law and tradition of the church.

There's certainly no biblical injunction against just war.

2007-08-24 01:47:57 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The only time this would happen would be if it was justified in the Just War Theory.

And I would fight.

(Although the current pope isn't a pope so if he said we must fight we wouldn't have to!But if he were I would)

2007-08-24 00:26:19 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The pope is not God and therfore has no authority given by God.

2007-08-24 00:41:09 · answer #9 · answered by joseph r 1 · 0 1

lo importante es destruir el loco

2007-08-24 01:38:25 · answer #10 · answered by nadie 6 · 0 0

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